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Mike Peace
06-17-2009, 1:10 PM
This is approximately 7 1/4" X 3 3/4" with a 1 3/4" opening. The opening is a little large. Hopefully, the openings on the next ones will get smaller as I gain experience and confidence with hollow forms. I rough turned it green with a scraper and a Sorby midi Hollowmaster which was really too small for the task. I finished turned after a few months with my new set of 1/2" John Jordan tools. It is finished with Antique Oil.

I am still struggling with the photography. I think I am getting the exposure right but still had to use software to fix the contrast as the originals all were a little washed out. Maybe from light flare? I am using Jamie Donaldson's Phrugal Photo Studio witha Halogen shoplight. I set the custom white balance using a white card as I do not have a phto grey card.

All comments and suggestions on the HF or photography are welcome. Looking to improve technique on both.

Steve Schlumpf
06-17-2009, 1:49 PM
Mike, love the wood!

I think the size of the opening fits the style of the form. This has a southwest feel to it and if you look at actual pottery from that region you will find most of the openings are fairly large so as to be functional.

I find the shoulder area to have a fairly sharp angle - no problem if that was your intended design... I did notice what looks to be a variation in the outside curve - halfway between the shoulder and the foot - see photo below. That may just be a optical illusion ... Also, the lip is abrupt and does not continue the curve of the turning. Not a problem - just one of those things that I try to notice in my turnings and is just my opinion.

On the photo side of things - cropping a photo can direct the viewer's attention towards the subject or redirect to another area that you wish to highlight. In the photo below I cropped so as to center the turning. You have to decide if it works better for you or not.

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Just personal opinion but I think your lighting is to strong and as such washes everything out. You could try under-exposing your photos a little and see if that makes a difference. I adjusted the color and touched the focus a little - just to show some options you can consider next time - again - if you think it helps. If not.... no problem.

Chip Sutherland
06-17-2009, 2:32 PM
of the wood in the form. I have had a bunch of spalted red oak but have never tried a HF with that orientation. RO is a bit of a beating to turn so I have usually turned NE to get the spalted rolling rim effect.

My last piece is already committed to being a 15" wide bowl...bummer.

James Harrison
06-17-2009, 2:45 PM
That is a very beautiful bowl. I do not turn but maybe in my next life.

alex carey
06-17-2009, 3:38 PM
Forms looks pretty good, like Steve pointed out there is that one spot that doesnt look consistent. Finish is nice though. Photos seem a little bright but otherwise they look good. Love the wood to.

Kirk Miller
06-17-2009, 4:19 PM
Nice work Mike. I have aroughed HF very similar to that but Silver Maple. I can't wait for it to dry so finish it. I hope it turns out as nice as yours.

Kirk

Mike Peace
06-17-2009, 4:22 PM
Steve, thanks so much for taking the time to offer your suggestions. I really appreciate it.



I find the shoulder area to have a fairly sharp angle - no problem if that was your intended design...

It was my intended design but will compare with some others to see if I should change in the future.


I find the shoulder area to have a fairly sharp angle - no problem if that was your intended design... I did notice what looks to be a variation in the outside curve - halfway between the shoulder and the foot - see photo below. That may just be a optical illusion ... Also, the lip is abrupt and does not continue the curve of the turning. Not a problem - just one of those things that I try to notice in my turnings and is just my opinion.

Yup, this variation should not have been there. And I agree a softer curve on the lip would be an improvement.


On the photo side of things - cropping a photo can direct the viewer's attention towards the subject.

I will need to watch the centering more closely when I make the picture to avoid the need for cropping.



Just personal opinion but I think your lighting is to strong and as such washes everything out. You could try under-exposing your photos a little and see if that makes a difference. I adjusted the color and touched the focus a little - just to show some options you can consider next time - again - if you think it helps. If not.... no problem.

Wow, if you think the light washes it out on this shot, you should have seen it before I used MS Picture Manager to increase the contrast! I took a shot with each exposure setting available and picked the best one. I think if I move the backdrop back a foot it might help. I think I am getting some flare causing it to wash out. I am going to try and find someone locally to help me with the photography.

Cody Colston
06-17-2009, 4:52 PM
That's a great looking piece, Mike. I rather like the sharp corners (I use that form a lot) the upright lip and the size of the opening. Too small of an opening just does not look right to me...maybe because I always seek function in a piece.

The orientation of the spalting on the top of the piece looks good, too.

I do agree about the inconsistent curve in the form but that is not immediately recognizeable.

Thanks for sharing.

Jeff Nicol
06-17-2009, 7:06 PM
Mike, I am partial to turning red oak so you had me there! The spalting on the top like that is very nice. The shape is always up to the designer and the buyer, I for one like this a lot. On the pictures try reflecting some light back with a piece of white poster board or something. If you have the light facing away from the piece and reflect it back with the paper it will light that front bottom area. I have been messing around with reflected light and it helps on this type of turning or on shallow plates and platters. Keep at it and every one will be a reflection of your personal insight.

Jeff

Ben Gastfriend
06-17-2009, 7:33 PM
Really nice piece. I really like how the spalting is almost all above the peak of the form's curve. Did you do that on purpose, or did it just turn out that way?

Bernie Weishapl
06-17-2009, 11:54 PM
Great looking piece Mike. Steve already hit the point I was going to bring up.

Tom Lewis
06-18-2009, 12:40 AM
Beautiful piece of wood and very nice shape!

Gary Conklin
06-18-2009, 1:46 AM
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I really likr the form and the wood is great!

Ken Glass
06-18-2009, 10:20 AM
Mike,
This is a really nice looking Hollow Form. I think the form is a real classic and the color of the wood on the top portion really sets the tone for this one. Very well done.

Mike Peace
06-18-2009, 8:21 PM
Really nice piece. I really like how the spalting is almost all above the peak of the form's curve. Did you do that on purpose, or did it just turn out that way?

I did it on purpose :).

Mike Peace
06-18-2009, 8:31 PM
I appreciate all of the comments and suggestions.

John W Dixon
06-18-2009, 9:05 PM
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Good tips. Thanks for sharing.

John