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John Keeton
05-23-2011, 5:56 PM
I had several folks interested in the brass threads that were used in the cherry urn I posted, so I picked up another of the plumbing parts today so I could post pics. This piece is apparently called a "knuckle joint." The opening is about 2".

The nut was used for the female thread insert in the bottom of the urn by turning away the lugs and truing up the whole piece. It was flipped over and the face was turned to remove most of the rough texture. Then a portion of the male threaded piece was parted off to use on the lid/plug.

Hope this helps!

Mark Hazelden
05-23-2011, 6:20 PM
Thank you John.

I was wondering what you had used. It makes sense now.

Tim Thiebaut
05-23-2011, 6:47 PM
Did you use your standard parting tool to turn these down John?

Brian Libby
05-23-2011, 6:52 PM
John, I like the idea of using brass instead of plastic.

John Keeton
05-23-2011, 7:02 PM
Did you use your standard parting tool to turn these down John?Yes and no. I used my HF parting tool for the trimming work on the nut - coming in from the side with very light cuts. I have a homemade tool in which I use planer blades in ground to various configurations - one of which is a parting tool (about 5/32") and that is what I used to part off the male threaded section. I held it pointed downward slightly below center in a negative scraping position - much smoother cutting!

Richard Jones
05-23-2011, 7:24 PM
John,

Thanks, headed tomorrow to my plumbing buddy's shop to see what's what. Now it looks as if I'll be checking into that hollowing system I've been putting off.

Perfect timing, thanks so much!!

Rich

Dennis Simmons
05-23-2011, 7:32 PM
I have a homemade tool in which I use planer blades in ground to various configurations - one of which is a parting tool (about 5/32") Dear John:
I have one of these, I have used it for 2 years, I have been going to make a handle on it , the other day it got hung, and cut my hand open, I hope yours has a handle :P

John Keeton
05-23-2011, 7:36 PM
Dennis, mine is made from a piece of square steel tubing - since this pic, I have made several different blade configurations.

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=136365&d=1261921490&thumb=1 (http://www.sawmillcreek.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=136365&d=1261921490)

Michael James
05-23-2011, 8:00 PM
Thanks for sharing the info John. May come in handy one day.
mj

charlie knighton
05-23-2011, 9:21 PM
thanks for sharing, John

Steve Schlumpf
05-23-2011, 9:56 PM
Pretty cool idea and something to file away for future projects! Thanks for sharing!

Joe Meirhaeghe
05-23-2011, 10:08 PM
Packard WoodWorks carries a 24k plated thread insert. I think it's about 1 1/2" dia. but can't remember for sure.

Karl Card
05-23-2011, 10:46 PM
Packard WoodWorks carries a 24k plated thread insert. I think it's about 1 1/2" dia. but can't remember for sure.

yes they do but if I remember correctly they were alot more expensive than John's setup... I am thinking they were around 14 bucks for one set... but that is if I remember correctly.

Baxter Smith
05-23-2011, 11:21 PM
Thanks for the possibilities John!

John Keeton
05-24-2011, 6:55 AM
yes they do but if I remember correctly they were alot more expensive than John's setup... I am thinking they were around 14 bucks for one set... but that is if I remember correctly.I haven't looked at the insert from Packard's, but the cost of this piece was $7 - but, then one has some work to do. I think the issue with the one from Packard would be the opening. In order to insert the cremains (while still in the plastic bag) a 2" opening is just about the minimum size IMO. The other may work, though - certainly something to consider.

Edit - just looked up the Packard rings (http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=packard&Product_Code=154917&Category_Code=) - they are only $5.50 per set - worth a try! I might check with the funeral director and get his thoughts on this - that would certainly make for an easier situation.

http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000002/154917-img.jpg

Karl Card
05-24-2011, 8:51 AM
If I was ever put in an urn I would want one that the lid was permantly sealed.... that way noone would ever mistake me for tea and drink me...lol

bob svoboda
05-24-2011, 9:00 AM
Thanks for the valuable info, John.