Bodor Laser owners, do you feel you would expect this from Bodor company?

Hello everyone,

I decided to buy a laser cutter/engraver to start some hobby engraving and maybe later use it as a side-income.
I have basic tinkering skills but feel designing and engraving is more fun so I decided to buy from Bodor. I know
that means paying more for the same better parts, than if I would have specified those parts and bought a Laser
from rabbit for example. But metalwork and design is slightly better than rabbit and a lot better than
Shenhui/Red Sail/ Weike clones.

Thing is, I previously read that Bodor always ships tubes that are not lesser watt than specified, but always the
correct wattage and of better quality than average manufacturers.

I bought 40 watt BCL MU 6050, the larger desktop.

I recieved a 700 mm Tongli tube. I did not expect that from Bodor. But perhaps I was just naive despite having
read a lot on these forums.

Also before I recieved the machine the salesperson wrote and asked if I would help her speak to customers from
sweden for her.

Do you other Bodor owners have the same experience? I feel kind of insulted that a salesperson would ask me to help
her when there was a 700 mm tong Li tube in the package when hours 4000-10000 work time 40 watt were advertised.

Do you feel that this is accepted by Bodor management or do you think I could have them send a real 40 watt?
I very politely asked if perhaps the person packing the order could have just had a slight missunderstanding,
but she insisted Tongli was standard. Although she did not mention length of tube in her reply.

Thank you for your replys Guys!

Best regards,
Daniel

what did you pay?

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Originally Posted by Rodne Gold

what did you pay?

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what Rodne said.


If you are going to the trouble of importing a machine yourself why would you order a machine with a 40 watt tube anyway? If ordering from china the price difference between a 40 watt and a 80 watt would be a few hundred dollars. I cannot seem to find this model online, can you point us to it so we can get a better idea of what you ordered?

Is this the machine? http://www.bodor.com/CO2_Laser/2016-08-03/16.html

If so, you bought a toy/hobby machine. Depending on what you paid, this is probably par for the coarse with a low end unit like this.

The lowest power rating from EFR is 60 watt, from RECI it's 80 watt so a 40 watt machine won't have either of those.

A 700mm tube *peaks* at 40 watts...but is about 32 to 35 watts continuous.

Like the guys said, it's a cheap machine, costs have to be saved somewhere

FWIW - about a year ago I asked Bodor for a quote on a 100W- 600x900 machine- they responded with a quote for a 100W RECI, so I asked them for a price with a 100W EFR and EFR power supply which they responded to saying it would actually be about $ 50.00 cheaper! I didn't end up ordering the machine, but I was impressed with their non gouging approach.
It would be interesting to know what Daniel paid and what the difference in price for say an 80W would have been?

If I read the Tongli website correctly, as in, a p/n of TLC700-50 is a 700mm tube, they rate that tube at 23-30 watts @ 18-22 mV... The TLC800-50 is rated 30-40...

If that IS a TLC700, they shouldn't be advertising it as a 40w machine...

I have 2 Bodor lasers. One is a 1300x900, the other I have in my home is a BCL 605 MU. It is probably the laser you have. Mine though, has the 80w Reci.
As far as Bodor shipping lower wattage than advertised, I have not found that! My Reci is 80w, 90w peak and tested at 108w. They sold it to me as an 80w tube. Sellers on ebay list the same tube as 90w and even 100w. Now they are not the sellers I will deal with! My little desktop laser weighs more than a Redsail 700X, or is it X700? Cost direct imported was over $5000, with my extras. Build quality is well above the average Chinese laser. They even sent many extra sensors and replacement parts for free. Bodor and Thunderlaser are the Chinese lasers I recommend!

I'm curious is to weather or not you have ever seen a rabbit laser. You say metal work and design of bodor is better then a rabbit yet you say you got a 700 mm tube which puts out under 35 watts running power. were a rabbit 40 watt tube is 1010 mm and their 40 watt tubes are 900 mm. I'm also pretty sure that the build quality of a rabbit 6040 is better also.

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Originally Posted by Daniel Edstrom

Hello everyone,

I decided to buy a laser cutter/engraver to start some hobby engraving and maybe later use it as a side-income.
I have basic tinkering skills but feel designing and engraving is more fun so I decided to buy from Bodor. I know
that means paying more for the same better parts, than if I would have specified those parts and bought a Laser
from rabbit for example. But metalwork and design is slightly better than rabbit and a lot better than
Shenhui/Red Sail/ Weike clones.

Thing is, I previously read that Bodor always ships tubes that are not lesser watt than specified, but always the
correct wattage and of better quality than average manufacturers.

I bought 40 watt BCL MU 6050, the larger desktop.

I recieved a 700 mm Tongli tube. I did not expect that from Bodor. But perhaps I was just naive despite having
read a lot on these forums.

Also before I recieved the machine the salesperson wrote and asked if I would help her speak to customers from
sweden for her.

Do you other Bodor owners have the same experience? I feel kind of insulted that a salesperson would ask me to help
her when there was a 700 mm tong Li tube in the package when hours 4000-10000 work time 40 watt were advertised.

Do you feel that this is accepted by Bodor management or do you think I could have them send a real 40 watt?
I very politely asked if perhaps the person packing the order could have just had a slight missunderstanding,
but she insisted Tongli was standard. Although she did not mention length of tube in her reply.

Thank you for your replys Guys!

Best regards,
Daniel

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Hello again!

I can admit that build quality between machines, is something I have only judged from what other Bodor owners have written. The build quality of this machine was judged by a friend studying mechanical engineering to be really good. So perhaps it isn't better than a Rabbit, I just trusted the judgement of other Bodor owners. But Hearing that rabbit provides as standard 40 watt a far longer tube, leaves me to think that perhaps the other Bodor users whose posts I read does not have firsthand experience with rabbit.

Yes, it's the larger of the two laser machines in the link provided.
6050 work table.
It is indeed the Tongli tube advertised as 30 on Tongli webpage. I paid around 2900 usd, which I have read others have paid too. At this cost I truly expected getting a reall 40 watt without any fuss. I knew that Bodor are overpriced, but reading from others that their customer service is great and you can always know you get what advertised, I figured For me it was alright to pay a bit overprice for slightly better metal work and a nice design, and to be able to not have to specify every part of the machine.

But not getting a tube as advertised, Tongli does not have 4000 hrs of work time, and also a tube Tongli says isn't 40 what makes me think otherwise.

A friend was quoted 3700 for this machine with reci 80 watt and cw 5200 chiller. So that indicates that probably around 2900 isn't salted more than within accepted reason, from their standard price for the unit in question. The extra couple of hundreds where not in my budget, that will be a year in the future or so. Gothenburg is scandinavias main China import harbour so 8 week lcl is dirt cheap when I pick it up at harbour myself.

So I will insist to my saleswoman with the link to Tongli webpage that the tube is 30 watt and see if they do indeed have excellent customer service, otherwise it stands clear that the overprice is not in any way worth it.

Rabbit 60 40 would have been like 2300 usd with the same parts right?

Thank you so much for your response!

I have seen, and used Rabbit lasers. They are well built, but I still say the Bodor is of better quality.

Thank you Doug, for obvious reasons that makes me glad. :)

I do hope Bodor will prove that they do have good and fair customer service as well. I will update as soon as I get a reply from salesrep. The tube thing do annoy me.

All feedback and response is very much appreciated. I recognize that I know a lot less about this than most people here. Except the ones that buy an eBay machine expecting a Trotec. I know at least a little bit more than them... And I look really forward to learning!

Cheers folks!

Bodor build quality is very good, that said they still use the same HiWin Rails, Same Steppers, Same belts, Same electronics etc as the other Chinese machines. In effect it's a Chinese machine in a western designed case.

That's overpriced for such a tiny 40w Chinese machine. If they are going to charge you so much, you should at least get the proper tube.

The control is DSP Keith unlike the usual Moshi rubbish that comes with a K40, for a DSP (Leetro) based machine that size the price is about right.