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    In the interest of helping others, I'd think one...

    In the interest of helping others, I'd think one could describe what they do 99% or 99.9% of the time.

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    Work most likely done on the cabinet makers'...

    Work most likely done on the cabinet makers' bench that Roubo also illustrates and describes:
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  3. David, As I said earlier, I read the first Kato...

    David,
    As I said earlier, I read the first Kato paper and watched the videos on Steve Elliot's site a number of years ago. Have I read all this stuff over the last months? No, I can be kinda slow...
  4. The Greenfield catalog is from 1872, the Ohio...

    The Greenfield catalog is from 1872, the Ohio Tool catalog is from 1910 and the Sandusky catalog from 1925. The Greenfield is interesting because it dates from near the competitive peak of the larger...
  5. That's pretty insulting. I assure you we have the...

    That's pretty insulting. I assure you we have the tools and skills to make double irons if we want. We don't care to go that way.

    The supply chain costs are a lot more relevant than labor costs...
  6. You also had an issue with my statement that...

    You also had an issue with my statement that double iron planes were a cost saving move for plane makers as the supply went from being locally produced to fitting into a modern retail system where...
  7. You're basing that "inferior" comment on the...

    You're basing that "inferior" comment on the price of one specific item? How about other offerings?

    If you look at catalogs, you'll find the price of a supposedly "inferior" premium single plane...
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    Kees, Go back and read the original thread...

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    Go back and read the original thread on WoodCentral. Wasn't in Mark Hennebury, one of the proponents of using Kato's information in hand planes, who explained how to file the mouth of a...
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    I can't duplicate what you're seeing without...

    I can't duplicate what you're seeing without looking your planes, seeing how they're sharpened, and how they're set up.

    I do remember very vividly one experience in our shop. Don and I were...
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    David, I went down this road about 20 years...

    David,

    I went down this road about 20 years ago. Shortly after the "oldtools" mailing list began a guy from Montreal named Paul Pedersen and I exchanged a lot of e-mail over weeks, maybe a month...
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    First of all, none of this was lost to anyone...

    First of all, none of this was lost to anyone who's done more than follow recent Internet influenced fads. Secondly the Kato video has been around for a long time. I'm not sure when Steve Elliot...
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    Tony, I find rabbet planes a little more...

    Tony,
    I find rabbet planes a little more difficult than hollows and rounds, good bedding of the iron and shaping the conical escapement are what is more difficult. Make some hollows and rounds to...
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    Tony, Because everything you need is readily...

    Tony,
    Because everything you need is readily available, hollows and rounds are probably the easiest to make.
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    Tony, The traditional planes and traditional...

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    The traditional planes and traditional trade practices evolved together on generations of skilled craftsmen's benches over centuries. There are so many features of traditional planes, some...
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    A lot of Swiss pattern files have safe edges. I...

    A lot of Swiss pattern files have safe edges. I usually use Swiss pattern pillar files when I need safe edges but there are others. Some Swiss files have one safe edge as well.
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    Tony, A couple weeks ago this was the place...

    Tony,

    A couple weeks ago this was the place with the best price I could find on the torch we use:

    http://www.waresdirect.com/products/Commercial-Products/Goss/Kp-Series215952?trackUR

    Part of...
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    I wouldn't call this overheating. If you were to...

    I wouldn't call this overheating. If you were to graph the actual temperature of the steel, as you contently add heat during heat treating, the temperature would hit a plateau when the transition to...
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    George, you've advocated using a magnet to...

    George, you've advocated using a magnet to determine the Curie point of carbon steel. The problem is that the Curie point doesn't indicate phase change from ferrite to austenite. Steel will lose its...
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    How about I show you what you need to look for?...

    How about I show you what you need to look for? Clean, well prepared steel is uniformly preheated then brought up to temperature. I did say clean didn't I? When the phase change takes place the steel...
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    Tony, First, I suggest you avoid using a MAPP...

    Tony,

    First, I suggest you avoid using a MAPP torch. MAPP only burns a little hotter than propane, maybe 100º if I remember right, but all the MAPP torches I've seen generate a pencil-point flame....
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    Raising the cutting angle of a plane increases...

    Raising the cutting angle of a plane increases the amount of wood fiber deflection ahead of the cutting edge and this increases the dulling wear on the face of the blade. So one of the downsides of...
  22. Steve Elliot has done a lot of work in looking at...

    Steve Elliot has done a lot of work in looking at cap iron performance and also has Professor Chutaro Kato's study on line. It's certainly worth reading.

    Steve's examination of the topic:...
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    Joe, I don't think the float with 60º sides is a...

    Joe,
    I don't think the float with 60º sides is a good idea. I tried making side floats with only a 15º angle on the float edges and found the bidirectional cutting a problem. With the fine points on...
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    Like Chuck said, skew angle impacts the cutting...

    Like Chuck said, skew angle impacts the cutting geometry. It also effects how much the plane will tend to drift in the cut, which can be a problem if you're trying to start the rabbet free-hand...
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    Stable? Not by the forest products industry...

    Stable? Not by the forest products industry definition--stability refers only to the ratio of tangential to radial dimensional change from green to oven dry. A wood with huge dimensional change when...
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