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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Volden View Post
    If you have an extra glass I would recommend increasing the speed, decreasing the power and setting the ppi to 200 or less. On my 25 watt I would run it 150ppi, 25pwr, 50spd. Glass just fractures and most times you can seldom get the results you desire (perfection). My $0.02.

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    Thanks Bruce,
    I will give that a shot...hey i enjoy everyones $0.02, make me a rich woman...LOL
    Phyllis

  2. This is the box art from a Japanese model company. With a little cleanup it could probably be vectorized...

    https://www.fleetnet.jp/popup_image....a88ef9152dde2c


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    WOW thanks chris,
    i googled and that one never crossed my path....
    i will see if i can clean that one up...but, George is so kind to work with the photo i emailed him, i'm hoping with EVERYONE'S help i will have one nice looking ship....gee how does one send cookies to all who helped...LOL

    Phyllis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllis Williams View Post
    wow those are very close...but i need the ship with the number 3508...you are wonderful frank i really appreciate the effort...as for the settings on the glasses...i am using 400 dpi / 20 s / 80 p and using 50% black...
    Thanks,
    Phyllis
    Yup your hitting it way too hard.. Use the photograv 'glass' setting, but reduce the picture to 150 dpi 'before' running it through photograv, but laser it at 300 (or a even multiple) If you have a universal that does not use 300 dpi, then run the photo at 100, and laser at 200 dpi I don't know what power laser you have, but a start of 80% power, and 40% speed should put you in the neighborhood.. always use 100% black for photographs not a percentage of black.. Use percentages for text and solid graphics only.. This works for me, and I put a lot of photos on glasses..
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    JMSDF Ship

    Phyllis,

    You might try looking in Janes Fighting Ships. They have a number of line drawings that you might be able to use. Even though I worked just across the bay from where this actual ship was tied up, unfortunately I was not able to get a photo. Military security and all. Good luck. Oh, yes, in Janes, look under the Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force, or JMSDF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Garcia View Post
    Phyllis,

    You might try looking in Janes Fighting Ships. They have a number of line drawings that you might be able to use. Even though I worked just across the bay from where this actual ship was tied up, unfortunately I was not able to get a photo. Military security and all. Good luck. Oh, yes, in Janes, look under the Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force, or JMSDF.

    Dave Garcia
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    Dave thanks for the info...i will go check it out
    Phyllis

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    JMSDF Ship

    Phyllis,

    Glad to help.

    As a side bar, I note that you also live in California. Since returning to the states after living in Japan for 14 years, expanding my wood working business to include laser engraving, and joining SMC, I note that the majority of folks on this forum are East of the Sierra Nevada's. Have you also found this to be so?

    I like to meet folks here in California within driving distance, for the specific purpose of visiting their places of business, exchanging ides and to see how others operate while asking for advice etc, without reinventing the wheel. Everyone on this forum has been extremely cooperative. Hopefully I haven't offended anyone by asking for help and advice in this manner.

    Once I'm up and running I will gladly return the favor in any way possible.

    Comments?

    Dave
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Garcia View Post
    Phyllis,

    Glad to help.

    As a side bar, I note that you also live in California. Since returning to the states after living in Japan for 14 years, expanding my wood working business to include laser engraving, and joining SMC, I note that the majority of folks on this forum are East of the Sierra Nevada's. Have you also found this to be so?

    I like to meet folks here in California within driving distance, for the specific purpose of visiting their places of business, exchanging ides and to see how others operate while asking for advice etc, without reinventing the wheel. Everyone on this forum has been extremely cooperative. Hopefully I haven't offended anyone by asking for help and advice in this manner.

    Once I'm up and running I will gladly return the favor in any way possible.

    Comments?

    Dave
    The Wood Block, Ltd
    Hi Dave,
    Well, welcome back to the states...14 years late...LOL
    I really havent been on here that much to notice where most are from...i guess i best pay more attention...i have just started posting...

    Visiting others sounds like a wonderful idea...

    Everyone here has been wonderful and very helpful...
    George was so wonderful he fixed the ship for me...as soon as i get the glasses done i will post a new picture....

    Phyllis

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    Jane's book of Ships

    I am glad someone had finally mentioned Jane's. They are a world leader of military hardware, ships included. If someone is looking for military images and can't find it, Jane's is a great place to turn.
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    I went to Jane's yesterday and if i'm not mistaken in order to view any photos you have to join, with a fee??

    Phyllis

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    JMSDF Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllis Williams View Post
    I went to Jane's yesterday and if i'm not mistaken in order to view any photos you have to join, with a fee??

    Phyllis
    Phyllis,

    if you are trying to "get there" on line, then yes, you'll have to join etc. I'm sure there is a local library in your neck of the woods. You can find "Jane's Fighting Ships" either in the military section and or the reference section of the library. Also, if you are close to a Navy base, or any military base with a base library, you'll be able to find a hard copy of this same book there as well.

    Hope this helps. Unfortunately I left "my copies" with the Navy when walking away after approximately 40 years of service in and out of uniform.

    Dave
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    sample of Glasses

    Thanks for the info Dave...i did a lot of googling today and was checking out blueprints...blueprints are more of a lineart...just hard finding Kashima 3508...

    I did the glass today with the photo George fixed for me and because its not a lineart i lost a lot of detail...i will post the glass...George if you are reading this what do you think of the glass? The Glass on the left is the photo you fixed George, the one on the right my sister ran thru photograv.
    Sorry for the glare, its not easy getting a nice picture of glasses with wording on both sides...

    the photo Christopher posted my work....
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    Glasses

    Hi Phyllis;
    Tough to see detail in pic- it's very difficult to get a good pic of something like this unless you're a photo expert.
    Unfortunately this is one of those things which has a lot of variables and requires a lot of trial and error-use cheap window glass and run different contrast/brightness settings on the pic and different power settings on the laser. Offhand, it looks as if you may be using too much power or the image is too dark.
    One other thing. If you find lineart of a similar ship, its real easy to change the vessel number to what you need.
    Best regards;
    George
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    Last edited by George M. Perzel; 07-03-2009 at 4:05 AM. Reason: addition

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    Quote Originally Posted by George M. Perzel View Post
    Hi Phyllis;
    Tough to see detail in pic- it's very difficult to get a good pic of something like this unless you're a photo expert.
    Unfortunately this is one of those things which has a lot of variables and requires a lot of trial and error-use cheap window glass and run different contrast/brightness settings on the pic and different power settings on the laser. Offhand, it looks as if you may be using too much power or the image is too dark.
    One other thing. If you find lineart of a similar ship, its real easy to change the vessel number to what you need.
    Best regards;
    George
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    Hi George,
    I'm searhing my heart out for a lineart ship...i have a 4 day weekend to do it in...
    the boat i lighten up to about a 50% black...my settings were 20s / 80p / 400 dpi...maybe i will try and reduce the power down...
    I really appreciate your hard work on the ship...i can use that one for other jobs for this customer...trust me your hard work will not go to waste...
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    I'm not an engraver...but find this post interesting....

    Here's a couple of images that I found...

    Also, my niece is from Tokyo - I'm sure she would be willing to translate for you....





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