Drive in some dowels and re-drill.
Drive in some dowels and re-drill.
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How much BLO did you put on? It's end grain, it should absorb pretty much all of the first 2 coats.
I doubt you'd get it all out with a rag.
A couple 'wacky' things to try:
1) abrade the interior of the hole with some 150gt sandpaper.
2) PAINT the interior of the hole with an oil based primer.
Either suggestion improve the friction. Truth be told, I think your problem is just that the holes are 'oily'. Once cured, I don't think you'll have an issue.
I thought of abrading the holdfast. I did that very thing on an old blue Marples I have. But,I was afraid the holdfast would chip the edges of the hole. My Marples had a screw tightening mechanism,but even so,the teeth I made would chip the hole.
I also thought of drilling the hole larger and driving in a pipe that would line the hole. Then,if you roughed up the holdfast it wouldn't hurt the hole. Easy way to rough the holdfast would be with a coarse checkering file,or a rethreading file you could get at an auto parts store.
that's why I use hot rolled round for the shanks, the mill scale finish is rough and is superb for holding power. if nothing else Jeff, just cram the holes full of toilet tissue or paper towels they are a superb absorbant material. if after the blo drys and they still don't hold take a round file and break it off about 4 inches long, then grind the small end round and chuck in a drill and rough up the holes a bit.
Last edited by harry strasil; 09-01-2009 at 10:14 AM.
Jr.
Hand tools are very modern- they are all cordless
NORMAL is just a setting on the washing machine.
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I did the same thing with the BLO in a 5" thick DF top and the hold fasts do hold fast when it dries. It's been about two years now with no problem.
I have the Gramercy HFs.
Marc
Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. At this point I'm going to sit tight and let the BLO dry completely before I take any measures. I'll let you know how it comes out.
I think I would try something like this if the soaking doesn't work... I would drill the 3/4" hole to 1" and then plug them with dowells and redrill them with the 3/4 or smaller drill bit of your choice!
Just an idea!
First and foremost, let the BLO dry completely,........(two or three weeks preferably). Next, clamp your holdfast in a vice with the round shaft sticking out in a horizontal position. Take a strip of emery cloth, about 100 grit,or, (whatever grit you have will work) and use it like a shoe shine rag and work it on the hold fast shaft just enough to break the shine on the surface and leave sanding marks which will be perpendicular to the length of the hf shaft. Do this all the way around the shaft and for the full length.
It doesn't need any deep grooves to hold "IF" it is going to hold at all, just enough to remove the Slick Finish of the shaft.
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They doesn't have a slick finish like Gramercy's!
Jr.
Hand tools are very modern- they are all cordless
NORMAL is just a setting on the washing machine.
Be who you are and say what you feel... because those that matter... don't mind...and those that mind...don't matter!
By Hammer and Hand All Arts Do Stand
I know Joel, I was replying to Norman's post, he evidently did not read post #19.
Jr.
Hand tools are very modern- they are all cordless
NORMAL is just a setting on the washing machine.
Be who you are and say what you feel... because those that matter... don't mind...and those that mind...don't matter!
By Hammer and Hand All Arts Do Stand
Followup:
It's been almost 4 weeks now. I wrapped some 80 grit sandpaper around a dowel and gave each of the holdfast holes a handful of swipes to remove any smooth finish that was in them.
Voila! Harry's holdfasts work once again.
So the answer as suggested by several members is indeed to just give it enough time for the BLO to completely dry.
Cool. Thanks for following up this thread.
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