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    I'm always amazed at some of the dumb things manufacturers do. I just don't see how you can be around a saw all day and design the push stick that way.

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    I'm confused. First of all, putting anything ferrous on a device meant to be pushed into a wood working machine strikes me as stupid beyond reason. Really? A magnet? what the bleep do you need a magnet for on that push stick. How about they drill a hole in it and provide a magnetic hook that stays on the cabinet? Or how about they let you leave the thing ON THE SAW NEXT TO THE FENCE AT ALL TIMES WHERE YU CAN REACH IT SO YOU CAN USE IT. Its always worked for me. Seriously, no metal on the push sticks for me please.

    Which leads to my next line of though, why the bleep would you pay money for a piece of plastic to push wood through a TS? I can't wrap my head around that concept. I have great push sticks on every machine that needs them all made from the scrap bin, all work at least as well as any plastic gizmo I've seen. John, do you really prefer the plastic thingy to the shop made option?

    Kreg has a nifty slide hanging jig with a few powerful magnets in it, a blue plastic thing that looks a lot like that push stick. It works great and was well worth the money. I'd guess someone at Kreg was brain storming ways to repurpose the concept and increase profits? That one looks like more of a brain fart to me than a brain storm.

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    Geez. Lots of hostility against store bought push sticks. The answer is yes, I prefer plastic push sticks and things to shop made push sticks. If you take a thin piece of wood, and then machine it into a push stick, you will most likely end up with a warped piece of wood....maybe tommorow, maybe a year from now. And then again, maybe it will stay straight forever. My stupid plastic one will stay straight forever. And then again, sometimes I use shop made push sticks because it's better for what I'm doing at that moment.

    If someone else prefers wooden push sticks, I encourage you to use wooden push sticks instead. There are way too many people on this one thread alone getting bent around the axle on my choice of push stick.

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    "Yummy yummy" says my SawStop....

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Coloccia View Post
    Geez. Lots of hostility against store bought push sticks. The answer is yes, I prefer plastic push sticks and things to shop made push sticks. If you take a thin piece of wood, and then machine it into a push stick, you will most likely end up with a warped piece of wood....maybe tommorow, maybe a year from now. And then again, maybe it will stay straight forever. My stupid plastic one will stay straight forever. And then again, sometimes I use shop made push sticks because it's better for what I'm doing at that moment.

    If someone else prefers wooden push sticks, I encourage you to use wooden push sticks instead. There are way too many people on this one thread alone getting bent around the axle on my choice of push stick.
    No hostility here John, I was just wondering about moving a magnet into the neighborhood of a whirling 10" piece of sharp metal.I myself use wooden ones because I scored a box of 100 about three years ago. If they'd been plastic, I'd be using plastic. No magnets though.
    On the other hand, I do appreciate the warning, I probably would not have suspected that a magnet was there.
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    I have this push stick and haven't had a problem with it. If you run your blade just above the wood it doesn't get anywhere the magnet.

    I use the magnet to attach the push stick to the saw. It is the only one I can consistent find.

    As normal, no one size fits all.

    Roger

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    Rockler's ad for the suspect push stick states that the magnet conveniently allows the push stick to be *stuck* to the TS so the operator can find it when needed. Oh Well! Those ambulance-chaser lawyers are just waiting for one like this!

    I won't spend $17 plus Shipping for anybody's push stick! This is an item which can be shop-made TOO Easily! I use a piece of flat tempered aluminum set into a wooden handle which has served me well for 20 years!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Jensen View Post
    If you run your blade just above the wood it doesn't get anywhere the magnet.
    There are times when this isn't the best choice for setup. I don't wish to revisit the blade height argument, so I won't get into it here. However, I do appreciate the warning about the Kreg push stick and will be avoiding it. There are times when I run the blade higher than 1 tooth above the wood and would prefer to not have to remember not to use that pushstick.


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    John,

    All discussion regarding buying push sticks _vs_ making them aside. It is this kind of information that helps the creekers work like a family and look out for one another. Sure glad you did a test run, something like this might be easily overlooked if someone was making a quick cut before ripping larger stock and grab for this item. A word of caution to be sure. Thanks for letting us know 'the bridge is out' ahead of us in some cases.

    Personally I own a gripper and I LOVE it. It has the use of more than a dozen push blocks I could make wrapped into one. I also make MANY of mine. so I have an assortment.


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    Seems to me the blade guard would get in the way. I bet we see an overhead guard, in the next advertisement of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Coloccia View Post
    Geez. If you take a thin piece of wood, and then machine it into a push stick, you will most likely end up with a warped piece of wood....maybe tommorow, maybe a year from now. And then again, maybe it will stay straight forever. My stupid plastic one will stay straight forever. And then again, sometimes I use shop made push sticks because it's better for what I'm doing at that moment.
    Make them from plywood, they are stronger and don't warp.......
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    I'm a bit confused on why people see this as a problem... the magnet is around an inch and a half away from the bottom of the push stick... not a simple 'tooth height' as someone mentioned earlier. You'd have to have your blade WAY higher than where it's supposed to be for this to be a problem.

    Your blade should be barely above your workpiece when you make a cut, otherwise you aren't cutting things safely. Am I wrong? Kreg's design seems fine to me.

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    I read the reviews and I can't believe that there's double sided tape holding the magnet in place and 2 out of the 3 reviews say the magnet fell out.

    Now I don't know about you guys, but a magnet falling out of a push stick will be highly likely to find its way to becoming a flak weapon of some sort.

    My stick style push stick cost me 89 cents at harbor freight when it was on sale... So I got two of them.

    My other type of push stick (looks similar to the kreg one) was made in less than 5 minutes out of a scrap of 1/2" MDF and a jig saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    I'm a bit confused on why people see this as a problem... the magnet is around an inch and a half away from the bottom of the push stick... not a simple 'tooth height' as someone mentioned earlier. You'd have to have your blade WAY higher than where it's supposed to be for this to be a problem.

    Your blade should be barely above your workpiece when you make a cut, otherwise you aren't cutting things safely. Am I wrong? Kreg's design seems fine to me.
    Just to clear up any confusion, I started this thread and never knocked Kreg's design. I simply wanted to make people aware of something that caught me be surprise. For the record, I typically set my saw blade about 1 1/2" above the piece I'm cutting. I feel that's the best compromise between kickback, clean cuts and blade safety and that's what works for me. If someone does mostly sheet goods, they may have another favorite height. I don't know since I do mostly solid wood products.

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