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    ShopBot 7 Sided Poker Table

    I was going to wait to post this until it was completely finished, but in light of Mike getting his new ShopBot, I thought it would be nice if I gave ShopBot some praise as well. My CAMaster gets a lot of the limelight.

    Every part for this table top was cut using a ShopBot with the exception of the angles on the table apron.

    The center of the table is 1 inch ply and will be covered with an insert that will be covered with leather.

    The chip trays are carved from walnut as are the rings for the beverage holder inserts. The arm rails are maple as are the aprons. The inlay on the edge is walnut and was done with a rabbeting bit on the ShopBot. Yes it had a beaing on it!

    The inlays on the aprons are mahogany and walnut. They are about 1/4 thick and not a veneer. The table can be refinished many times in the coming years and you will not have to worry about the inlays disappearing.

    The legs will follow shortly. The poledancer that I posted a photo of in another forum will serve as the legs. 7 of them to be precise.

    The poker table named "Strip Poker" is to be our signature piece for our new website launching in January.

    Mike, I hope that this gets your gears turning and you start cranking out anything and everything you can think of!!!!!

    Guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mathews View Post

    Mike, I hope that this gets your gears turning and you start cranking out anything and everything you can think of!!!!!

    Guy
    Nice table, hopefully some casino chain orders a few hundred. Racy design

    in day or two! Assembly is going well got the table together and had to take a break to go and bust up the crate since I can't leave that out in the parking lot but I am finishing up the process of aligning the table. All thats really left to do with that is level and square it, and tighten it all up.

    Going to get some sleep before I install and adjust the X axis rails onto the side extrusions and setup the gantry. Hope to have it cutting tomorrow night
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    guy you are gonna make a lot of money with that one!!

    jim

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    Money schmoney!

    Jim,

    You may find this hard to believe, but I could care less about the money from this table and the sale of others like it. It is the impression that it leaves on fellow woodworkers like yourself and others that sometimes means more then money.
    Don't get me wrong, I love getting paid for my work, but I do not do this for money. I do this out of pure passion for woodworking, CNC and the challenges that are presented to me with each job.

    I will be quite passionate when I sand the legs I am sure!!!!


    I'm going to hell!!!!! I know I am!!!!

    Thanks Jim.


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    Sanding the legs will make a great video.............

    Guy, why how or what reason did you leave the bearing on the bit.

    I would only see a bearing bit destroyed in my shop if I tried that

    Very cool table can't wait to see it done!

    Nick

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    Guy,

    You wouldn't happen to want to share the file for the chip trays, would ya? I've been itching to try cutting wood with the CAMaster, but I just don't have anything I'd like to do...until now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mathews View Post
    Jim,

    You may find this hard to believe, but I could care less about the money from this table and the sale of others like it. It is the impression that it leaves on fellow woodworkers like yourself and others that sometimes means more then money.
    Don't get me wrong, I love getting paid for my work, but I do not do this for money. I do this out of pure passion for woodworking, CNC and the challenges that are presented to me with each job.

    I will be quite passionate when I sand the legs I am sure!!!!


    I'm going to hell!!!!! I know I am!!!!

    Thanks Jim.


    Guy
    hey Guy, nice design and attention to detail. Im working on a table in my spare time as well and i am inspired by your design to finish mine.

    do you do woodworking for a living or a hobby?

    did you get a real woman to model for the dancer or was it just a file?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Bukky View Post
    Sanding the legs will make a great video.............

    Guy, why how or what reason did you leave the bearing on the bit.

    I would only see a bearing bit destroyed in my shop if I tried that

    Very cool table can't wait to see it done!

    Nick
    Nick,

    I will post screen shots of the vectors for this project soon. One of the things that I try to do is show people that you are only limited by your fears of a CNC machine.

    Think about this. You have to put a radius on the outside edge of a production run of parts. By profiling (cutting out a part, not picking on a race of people) the edge first, you can now change bits and use the round-over bit with a bearing to perform the round-over operation. If your bearing is a 1/2 inch you simply select a 1/2 bit for your tool path and then calculate the depth of the radius. Profile cut to that depth and voilą, instant round-over. I use lead ins and lead outs for this type of operation. The bearing will ride the original profile that you previously cut. You do not have to buy a new bit for this type of operation which saves you money and time. A lot easier to change a bit and run a program then it is to stand at a router table all day and perform round-over operations. It is even easier in the case of my CAMaster which allows me to automatically change tools.

    Each job I do whether it is a one time job or a production run is treated as if it will be a production run. Therefore, I have to program as if it is going to be a production run. Even proof of concept trial and error's will allow you to grow beyond the traditional use of CNC and come up with things that no one has done yet.

    Also my reason for leaving the bearing on the bit is bearings cost money and sometimes get lost. Also, there is no reason to remove it as long as you are comfortable with the program you are running.

    Guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Cowan View Post
    Guy,

    You wouldn't happen to want to share the file for the chip trays, would ya? I've been itching to try cutting wood with the CAMaster, but I just don't have anything I'd like to do...until now
    Bryan,

    The file for the chip tray is a manual code file I wrote. I used a rabbeting bit and made a jig to stand the wood on its side. Entered from the face of the wood .3125 down from the top of the cutter and slowly plunged the bit down taking advantage of the the fact that the cutter has an edge on the bottom and top as well as the side.

    At the bottom of the plunge the bit pulls out returns to starting Z height, offsets on the X the proper distance, and re-zero in the program, a Goto command repeats the process.

    It was scary to do the first time, but what isn't. The prototype was carved using an 1/8 inch ball mill and took about 40 minutes per tray and we still had to sand. By utilizing the above method, the trays took less then 5 minutes each.

    Guy
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    "hey Guy, nice design and attention to detail. Im working on a table in my spare time as well and i am inspired by your design to finish mine.

    do you do woodworking for a living or a hobby?

    did you get a real woman to model for the dancer or was it just a file?
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    Anthony,

    Thank you. Woodworking is now my living. I have a culinary degree. Go figure.

    Female model is CG. Yes I can scan a nude female with the Polhemus Fastscan but it is difficult to find voluteers and not have the wife mad at me. CG is a safer option and makes for a happy marriage!

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    i did this file for a table we built a while back it is based on a 43mm opening for the large chip it is set in 1" stock which i thought was a bit loose but the client liked it. guy has raised the bar intensly on this, while our table was elegant that is all it was elegant, guy i am meeting this client to night so i might sell your table. actually i am dead sure his wife will not allow it either, that is a work of art!!

    jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by james mcgrew View Post
    i did this file for a table we built a while back it is based on a 43mm opening for the large chip it is set in 1" stock which i thought was a bit loose but the client liked it. guy has raised the bar intensly on this, while our table was elegant that is all it was elegant, guy i am meeting this client to night so i might sell your table. actually i am dead sure his wife will not allow it either, that is a work of art!!

    jim
    Thank you Jim.

    The table would go nicely with the house you just completed!!!!!!!


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    Guy,
    That is a beautiful table! I have one question and a suggestion.

    The question: Is there any special reason you made it 7 sided? A "typical" table would accomodate 9 or 10 players, but an octagonal table is "normal" when you have something that's not oval or round.

    The suggestion: I have made a lot of tables and played a lot of poker. I would highly advise against leather for the table center. It's hard, if not impossible, to slide cards against it and it will wear quickly as chips and cards are dragged across it. There are lots of colors of fabric that are specifically designed for poker tables that may be a better fit. I used to buy mine from yourautotrim.com - they have the best selection and prices and they also have the padding you need under the cloth.

    Gary

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    That's awesome, guy! A poker table is something I've given some thought to taking a shot at down the road. I was also wondering how nicely wooden poker chips could be cut on the CNC, as opposed to something like a laser, with reference to detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Savage1 View Post
    That's awesome, guy! A poker table is something I've given some thought to taking a shot at down the road. I was also wondering how nicely wooden poker chips could be cut on the CNC, as opposed to something like a laser, with reference to detail.
    Bob,

    I touched on poker chips in a previous thread.

    http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showpost...0&postcount=13

    Use this link to view the entire thread.
    http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthre...10#post1194710 This link will open at Post #13, however, you may be tempted to scroll prior to reading so I posted the single link as well.

    Machine time is the downfall on this one for most people. We can do them if we wanted using our 10 spindle and make it somewhat profitable after jigging was developed. For a single spindle and custom chips it can be done but would be cost prohibitive in my eyes. If you wanted to make a set for a gift and give them to a close friend or something like that then by all means. There are too many other ways to make chips (poker) then with a single spindle CNC. Holding the chips down as they are cutout is the battle and you need a good vacuum jig for this.

    Guy
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