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    Table Saw runs in reverse

    OK this is a new one for me.
    I've got a 2-year-old Powermatic PM 2000, 3HP, wired for 220.

    Today after running the saw for a while, I stopped, changed a blade, and when I went to start it back up, it ran backwards for a second and then tripped the breaker. Two more tries, including hand-spinning the blade in the proper direction, it did the same thing.

    Switch? Motor? Capacitor?

    Anybody have any ideas?

    Thanks
    Phil

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    ??? I'd put that other blade back on.... Quick!
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    Phil,

    I would bet it's the capacitor.

    The starting capacitor's main use is to insure the motor starts and starts in the proper direction.
    Ken

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    I've heard of that with three phase after a power loss. Never in a 1ph scenario.

    No clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Fitzgerald View Post
    Phil,

    I would bet it's the capacitor.

    The starting capacitor's main use is to insure the motor starts and starts in the proper direction.
    Ditto... STARTER cap, not run cap. They're different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell Andrus View Post
    Ditto... STARTER cap, not run cap. They're different.
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    Thanks for the advice! Will check it out, and report back.

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    What would be real freaky is if someone put the blade on backwards when that happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Tomlinson View Post
    I've got a 2-year-old Powermatic...
    Yeah...it's that "Terrible Twos" thing. My kids did crazy stuff at that age too.

    (Sorry...I'm being silly. Hope you get it figured out.)

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    One more vote for a defective start capacitor. A new one should be available locally for something in the neighborhood of ten bucks. Be sure the voltage and MFD specs on the new match the old. Also be sure the physical size of the new capacitor is compatible with the enclosure on the motor.
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    Switch Wires

    Your problem can be fixed in five minutes at no cost. Disconnect your feed power. Hook up the red wire where the black wire is feed to the motor. Hook up the black wire where the red wire used to be attached. This will cause the motor to run in the opposite direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken gibbs View Post
    Your problem can be fixed in five minutes at no cost. Disconnect your feed power. Hook up the red wire where the black wire is feed to the motor. Hook up the black wire where the red wire used to be attached. This will cause the motor to run in the opposite direction.
    Ken;

    That only works with 3 phase power.
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    Your problem is that the starting winding isn't in the circuit for some reason.

    The starting winding provides the direction control on a single phase motor, if it isn't working when the motor is energised, the motor won't have a directional bias, nor will it be able to start.

    Your motor problem could be;

    - a broken wire

    - an open start winding

    - an open centrifugal starting switch

    - an open starting capacitor

    I would check al of the above with an ohm meter/ mechanical inspection before I started replacing parts.

    Regards, Rod.

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    Two things I confirmed with the Powermatic rep on the phone this AM.

    One is that the original switch on the saw has insufficient overload capacity, so they are sending me a new switch [guess they figured that out after I bought mine], and

    Two is that the starting capacitor is bad.

    Will report back after installing the new parts just to close this thread.

    Thanks for all the help everyone!

    Phil

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    You may be correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Myk Rian View Post
    Ken;

    That only works with 3 phase power.
    Switching the red and black hot leads worked for me on 220 power that is not phased. No such as single phase power.

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