I have beeen reading your forum for a while trying to take it all in. I have seen this addressed some what but maybe not these two together. My question is which one of these would be best for me. Im new to turning this will be a christmas present for me and as such will be from a limited budget. I do believe you get what you pay for. I will be starting out doing small things but the HF gives me a little more size before I would need to upgrade. The jet comes with great reviews and a good company behind it. I know I will need additional tolls and other items thats why i'm limiting the amount to be spent on the lathe itself. Thanks for all your help