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    Snapped brass screw head off

    I'm using #6 brass screws to fasten some hinges, and I had one snapp off. Any suggestions on how to get it out, or a fix of some kind? I'd like to get another screw in there as there are only 3 holes per leaf.

    And I think I'm swearing off brass screws - wayyy to soft for a goon like me.

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    If you can't get the old screw out, use a screw extractor - http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...ew%20extractor - and glue in a dowel plug. Then drill a new pilot hole. When using brass screws ALWAYS thread in a same-size steel screw first - to cut the threads in the wood. Then remove the steel screw and replace with the brass screw for show.
    Last edited by Jeff Bratt; 12-29-2010 at 1:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Bratt View Post
    If you can't get the old screw out, use a screw extractor - http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...ew%20extractor - and glue in a dowel plug. Then drill a new pilot hole. Whe using brass screws ALWAYS thread in a same-size steel screw first - to cut the threads in the wood. Then remove the steel screw and replace with the brass screw for show.
    I like the looks of those extractors, never have seen them. They look like that are hollow, is that correct?
    So you are almost using them like a plug cutter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Huber View Post
    I like the looks of those extractors, never have seen them. They look like that are hollow, is that correct?
    So you are almost using them like a plug cutter.
    Those are hollow, yes. You can make your own with a file and a piece of steel tubing if you want a custom size. Its basically a long hole saw without a pilot bit. I've used plug cutters in a pinch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Bratt View Post
    If you can't get the old screw out, use a screw extractor - http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...ew%20extractor - and glue in a dowel plug. Then drill a new pilot hole. Whe using brass screws ALWAYS thread in a same-size steel screw first - to cut the threads in the wood. Then remove the steel screw and replace with the brass screw for show.
    That is exactly what I was thinking when I read the post.

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    +1 on the extractors. They do just what they say they will. Then plug the hole with a dowel and re-drill / screw. I have a few steel screws of each size of brass screw I use. I run the steel screw in and out first and then just install the brass screw with minimal effort; no more broken screws. Where I want the brass color but do not require the slotted brass screw appearance I use these.

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    When I have had that happen I drill it out and then make a plug and glue in the plug, drill a new hole and install the new screws.
    Use a drill bit that is a little smaller then the plug size you will be using. Drill it very slow so the bit will not walk on you. After you get it drilled out then you can drill the hole for the size of the plug.

    With brass screws I now predrill the hole and install a steel screw, then remove the steel and install the brass of the same size.

    Also I always use bees wax to install the screws.

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    That is exactly why I have stopped useing brass screws. They look nice, but not worth the pain in the neck when they twist off.

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    I second on the wax even if it is an old candle. That extractor is a great idea although Id like to see something just a little smaller to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Huber View Post
    With brass screws I now predrill the hole and install a steel screw, then remove the steel and install the brass of the same size.

    Also I always use bees wax to install the screws.
    + 1 on the beeswax. I use it on all my screws.

    Don't use soap as it will stain the wood.

    The correct size pilot hole is a must for brass screws.

    You might be able to use a Dremel and thin cutoff wheel to slot the top of the screw and back it out with a flat screw driver.
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    Thanks for all the tips guys! I didn't think to create the threads with a steel screw, which is likely why they kept breaking. Either way, I'm going to ditch the fully brass screws and get some plated brass, or maybe even some shiny stainless for contrast rather than trying to match brass. I need these screws to tighten down and don't want to worry about taking it easy on them so brass is out.

    I found the same type of screw extractors at woodcraft and I'll pick some up today since I don't have a Rockler nearby and don't want to wait for shipping.

    Thanks again!

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    Get out your Dremel with the holder for the cutting disc, you know, the ones that are very brittle and snap off when you look at them cross-eyed. Cut a small slot into the top of the screw and see if you can put a flat blade screw driver in the slot to back out the screw. If that doesn't work, try the other suggestions.

    Ha, didn't notice that Lee had already made this suggestion. My favorite technique for dealing with stubborn screws.
    Last edited by Floyd Mah; 12-29-2010 at 2:23 PM.

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    Grab it with the chuck on your drill. I'm sure it's reversible.

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    I tried the cutting-a-slot approach and no luck with soft brass screws. Being a small #6 didn't help. I've done the slot technique on bolts many times before, but not little screws like this.

    I picked up the screw extractor as suggested and will try it when I get home.

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    I tried the screw extractor last night and it worked perfect! I was surprised how well it worked and how clean a hole it left. I drilled a 1/4" through hole in a piece of 3/4" hard maple as a guide, used that to sight the broken screw and gently centered it on the screw, clamped it down, measured the proper depth of cut and set the extractor accordingly, put the hand drill on reverse, and slowly went at it. While drilling, one of them kind of popped to let me know it was out. I inserted a drill be the same diameter of the inside fo the extractor to push out the screw from the extractor.

    I used a 1/4" plug cutter to make the plug to fill the hole with some glue.

    Thanks for the suggestion!

    $10 well spent.

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