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Thread: More problems, Now with the Raised Panels

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    More problems, Now with the Raised Panels

    I glued up a couple pieces of poplar to make raised panels.

    I routed in the raised panels and ended up with these weird voids on the raised panel where the two pieces of poplar were glued up. The voids were on both the top and the bottom of both panels I cut. Two of the voids are in a triangular shape, and the other two look like a dovetail shape.

    I can not for the life of me figure out what causes this.
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    If at 1st you don't succeed, go back to the lumberyard and get some more wood.

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    Sure looks like a biscuit to me. Been there done that..

    Jim from Idyllwild CA

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    I'm an idiot

    Duh, now I feel stupid. Feel free to pile on, I am having one of those days.
    If at 1st you don't succeed, go back to the lumberyard and get some more wood.

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    By any chance did you use biscuits when gluing up the boards? Are those possibly biscuit slot voids? It's just real odd that its happening only at the glue up joint.
    Use the fence Luke

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    Jack,

    I have never seen anything like that, but will be folloring the thread to see what the cause turns out to be. But the panels look very nice otherwise!!

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    Let this me a lesson to the rest of you. Keep your biscuits away from the ends when doing raised panels.

    The sad thing is that now that I look at it, you can tell clear as a bell that the bottom panel pictured above has a biscuit sticking out of it. Its been a couple days since I did the glue up and completely forgot those biscuits were in there.
    If at 1st you don't succeed, go back to the lumberyard and get some more wood.

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    You're right...I thought is was strange looking but had no clue. I have yet to use biscuits...looks like fun!

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    Dont feel bad. I dont know anyone who hasn't been bitten by this particular bug. Console yourself that it's probably a one time only mistake. Every time you biscuit from now on, this will haunt you and you'll spend lots of time planning you slot layout to avoid this.
    Use the fence Luke

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    "Been There Done That" Nice looking raised panels, even with the voids.
    Jerry

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    You aren't the first

    I was making an oval tabletop and used biscuits for the glue-up. Three days pass and I'm ready to cut the oval. I say to myself "now this panel is plenty big for the oval you want to cut. Why not slide your pattern to one end and have some good size scraps left?" When I cut the biscuit I remembered why that wasn't a good idea...

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    I did the same thing using dowels. It took me a long time to figure out what was going on and when I did, man did I feel stupid.

    Lamar

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    So Jack. Why are you using biscuits on door panels????


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    Bummer

    You could allwasy do like the shakers and put the panel flat side out.. Vanity you know... Sorry for your error!
    Chris
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    Hey Jack
    Just curious. What are you going to do now? Scrap them? Patch them? Use them as-is? Are there any other areas on the project where you could cut these smaller and use them (assuming you know where the rest of the biscuits are and can work around them)?
    Use the fence Luke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Diemer
    Duh, now I feel stupid. Feel free to pile on, I am having one of those days.


    Good one Jack.

    Can't wait to see you in person. I'll wait 'til then to pile on.

    t
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