A Great Woodie Build Off

[PAUL FOWLER]

DW,

I for one would be interested how you set up a "bailey", I am relative new to hand planes & would Appreciate it.

[David Weaver]

Paul, there are a lot of resources for setting the plane up to cut when conditions are good. I don't remember what videos or books describe what, so maybe someone else could provide a link to something that talks about basic setup of a plane. I'd sum it up as everything needs to be clean, tight and sharp.

If you're looking for more than that, like working difficult wood, let me know.

[Derek Cohen]

DW,

I for one would be interested how you set up a "bailey", I am relative new to hand planes & would Appreciate it.

Hi Paul

Welcome to SMC.

Why not start a thread on that very topic. You will get loads of advice and ideas.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Mark Godlesky]

There is a sticky at the top of the Neanderthal Haven section that has several good threads on metal hand planes. Check it out here.

[Derek Cohen]

Are we done? Is this thread to die?

Here is a jointer I completed today. I was assessing some pre-production handlemaker's rasps for Liogier - making a closed handle to assess the curve in the blade - when it seemed reasonable to add a body to the completed handle (what else would you do with it?). I found a 2 1/4" and tapered 3/16" thick Sorby blade, and seemed ideal. I decided on 28" for the length. Why 28"? This is a manageable size in a longer jointer. I have a 30" which feels just a little too long, and also too light (the body is low in the tradition of the HNT Gordon planes). The 28" ended up weighing about twice as much as the 30" even though it is another razee design.

A few pics ..





How big is it?

Well, it seems small against the 36 1/2" coopers jointer (rear) and a bit larger than the 15" jack (front) ...



In use it is balanced and comfortable, even on a 1/2" edge ...





Regards from Perth

Derek

[Jessica Pierce-LaRose]

Derek - the exterior chamfering, rather than interior "eyes" looked a little odd to me at first, but I actually really like it. The stopped chamfering around the blade mortise, besides being functional, is very well done and adds a nice look to it. I also really like the little details on the wedge. All around, it's darn purty!

Still love the little classic car flair to the nose of that jack plane, too.

[Klaus Kretschmar]

Hi Derek,

many congrats on those beauties. I do like the attention to detail, you show. It's a pure joy to watch the pics. One annotation to the 2 longer planes. Wouldn't it make sense to use the front of the totes to give the iron some more support? Especially the long jointer that has a lever cap might benefit, if the blade support would be behind the place where the lever cap screw presses the blade. Just a thought, no critizism by any means.

Cheers
Klaus

[Leigh Betsch]

I feel kinda bad, I started this thread but have found no time to post lately. I have two jacks setting on my bench just waiting for me to fit the wedges, since May. But when you see the three infills that I have in process you'll see what has been keeping me busy! They are a long way from finished but when they are done then I'll finish the two wooden jacks.

So no we are not done with this thread yet!

[Trevor Walsh]

I'm trying, but I have all these mouths to feed.

[Derek Cohen]

Hi Joshua. Thanks for the kind words. The reason for the exterior chamfers, as opposed to internal chamfers, was mainly to give the plane a family resemblance to the coopers jointer. The chamfers on the latter had been influenced by having a lever cap and the laminated construction, so I was not sure if it would work on this small (!) jointer. The chamfers disguise the laminations. The problem (for me) is finding wood that is wide enough to chop a mouth. I am recycling roofing timber. I can get the length but not the width.

Hi Klaus, Thanks as well. I understand what you mean about using the front of the tote. That is traditional with infill planes. I cannot recall, however, ever seeing a woodie built that way. There is no need in any event as the bed is deep and there is a great deel of support for the blade. With regard the force exerted by a lever cap, don't forget that this is at two places in the blade - at the top (which is visible) but also at lower end. The combination is super rigid. The cooper's jointer and the jack both have set screws as well (ala LV planes), and I find this very helpful in setting up a plane or returning a blade to a previous setting. The new jointer does not as yet have these set screws. Not 18th or 19th century, but I recommend them to all.

I've got to get my mind off plane building and back to furniture. There are three pieces I am looking forward to: a writing desk, a chair for it, and a display cabinet. The trouble is that they take a long time (I only have weekends in the shop), and planes are a quick fix .. and there are three planes I am considering building (a moving filletster to match the plough, and male-and female dovetail planes - better versions of the ones I built several years ago).

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Georg Zudoff]

Hello,

This link to a Russian woodworkers forum thread with enough greate woodie to be presented here. THis plane was made by Alex Kashtanov
http://forum.woodtools.ru/index.php?topic=44054.0

[Zach Dillinger]

Ok, so it has been more than a year since this thread was first started. Who's up for a 2013 version of it? I've got the image of a beautiful plane stuck in my head and I'd like to get it out!

[Jessica Pierce-LaRose]

I'd be in if I ever get around to buying some floats. I spent the money I had set aside for floats on a low bid on a Clifton jointer on the eBay, and was surprised to win. . . which I guess means I don't need to track down that large blank for a jointer, although that's still sort of in the back of my brain. . .

[David Weaver]

Maybe later this year if we open it up to infills. I have a couple of infills I'd like to build, but I don't know if I have much incentive to do it now.

I have a big dry piece of dead QS cocobolo I could waste on a regular woody smoother, too.

[Matthew N. Masail]

I think it would be cool to make the thread open to all shop made planes. and in general leave it open.
I plane on making a shooting plane also later this year and love seeing the planes other people make.


If I'm already posting, here is my first coffin smoother finished the other day (aside from the prototype). it's very comfortable and works great. I could put more effort into the final esthetics. only apology is that it's laminated.

Ipe sole
HSS blade from LV. would be nicer to have O1. wish LV made them in 1 3\4 inch too.
Oak body with added wights (two 1" diameter steel rods), total weight is just under 2lbs.

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