View Poll Results: Where do you fall?

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  • SS Owner: brake has never fired and no injuries

    49 10.02%
  • SS Owner: I've been injured

    5 1.02%
  • SS Owner: Brake fired accidentally

    37 7.57%
  • SS Owner: Brake fired and prevented an injury

    8 1.64%
  • Non SS Owner: I've been injured

    69 14.11%
  • Non SS Owner: no injuries

    336 68.71%
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Thread: SawStop vs Non SS Table saws poll....Accidents and accidental firings

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    SawStop vs Non SS Table saws poll....Accidents and accidental firings

    So my curiosity has gotten the better of me. What I want to know is how the SMC community is fairing with western table saw technology. No motive...just curiosity, so I decided to simply poll it because I don't think anyone ever has. I'm considering kickback injuries as well, not just lacerations on the blade

    So what say you?

    The poll is multiple choice. Choose any and all that apply to you, or that applied to you in the past (for example, I chose "Non SS owner: no injuries" and "SS Owner: brake never fired and no injuries").

    Oh...and the poll is anonymous.
    Last edited by John Coloccia; 03-26-2012 at 1:07 AM.

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    I just voted "non SS, injured". It was years ago with a C-man contractor's saw and I was being very stupid.

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    Voted non-SS..injured. It was a three week bruise from a kickback....just before I bought my Beis splitter.

    Rick Potter

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    I have a Shark Guard on my cabinet saw. I've never had a kickback since installing it.

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    My gosh! I did not realize the rate of non-SS injuries would be so high! 4/23 ?!

  6. #6
    No injuries to date and have been doing wood working professionally since 1982. I'm also a non SS owner but if I ever upgrade it will be a SS.

  7. #7
    Not to be a pain, but the questions asked won't provide much if any meaningful data that can be correlated, and can create false conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Foster View Post
    Not to be a pain, but the questions asked won't provide much if any meaningful data that can be correlated, and can create false conclusions.
    Thanks for the heads up. You're free to start your own poll with whatever questions you wish. I choose to ask these.

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    I think this is worth discussion. There's only one stat that seems to jump out at me: Of the non-SS owners, about 1 in 7 people have had an accident. Is that particular fact refutable? (I'm not trying to infer how an SS changes the game in any way).

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    My table saw accidents have been with it NOT running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Natalie View Post
    My table saw accidents have been with it NOT running.
    Cut while changing the blade? Bruise from bumping your hip? Straining your back from moving it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Natalie View Post
    My table saw accidents have been with it NOT running.
    I voted 'non-SS owner, no injuries', but I forgot that I was once injured by my saw when it was not running. I had crouched under a wing to pick up something and when I stood up the corner of the CI wing scraped my back. Nothing too serious (nice scratch), but it hurt like hell! My wife wondered later why I screamed the F-bomb at one point.

    I came close to injury lately but a SS wouldn't have helped me on this one. Was doing tenons flat on the TS and when I brought the piece back to the miter gauge to flip it over I didn't move it out of the way of the dado set enough: it caught slightly. Thankfully I use a big push block when doing this to ensure the piece stays down over the blade, so that helped me control the piece. The piece really just sped up since I was already pushing down on it. My hands were actually way away from it (left side of piece; blade was on right side), but without the push block the piece might have jumped up and over the miter gauge and hit me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prashun Patel View Post
    I think this is worth discussion. There's only one stat that seems to jump out at me: Of the non-SS owners, about 1 in 7 people have had an accident. Is that particular fact refutable? (I'm not trying to infer how an SS changes the game in any way).


    What I find interesting (albeit it's not perfect because there's some overlap in two of my options, and the sample is tiny) is that the save rate on the SS appears to be far lower than the injury rate on non-SS saws. It's off a bit because there can be overlap between SS Owner - Accidental Firing and SS Owner-Save, but that will only be significant if the number of saves starts to climb. Also, the SS hasn't been around for 50 years either, so that will throw things off as well. I think you would ideally like an injury/save rate per 100 hours, or something like that, but in lieu of that I just kept it simple and with the understanding that it's just a poll, not a statistical analysis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prashun Patel View Post
    I think this is worth discussion. There's only one stat that seems to jump out at me: Of the non-SS owners, about 1 in 7 people have had an accident. Is that particular fact refutable?
    Same fact jumps out at me...
    "It's Not About You."

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    At some point, anybody else who's interested can -- as I've been -- browse some of the CPSC's data on this subject.

    I find it pretty interesting, but ... then ... I'm kind of a quant, at heart:

    LINK

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    Be safe !
    He's no fun. He fell right over !

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