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  1. #1
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    8" Jointer research

    I have been going nuts the last couple of weeks trying to decide which 8" jointer I wanted to purchase. I got a lot of helpful information from various people here so I figured I would post this table that I compiled as a good starting point for others to use in the future.

    First I started with the list at http://www.powertools.com/WdWkMac/Jointer.htm which is a very good starting point.

    Then I compiled from all kinds of online sources and visted several local sellers. Local for me is the Twin Cities area in Minnesota. So, take that into account when seeing the prices and shipping rates. Locally I checked out Thomas Tool Supply, Tried and True Tools, Pererson Machinery, 7 Corners Hardware and Rockler. There is also Harris Machinery, Woodcraft, Dexis, and MJB Machinery that I didn't visit. Tried and True and Thomas Tool both had good salesemen and all of them were helpful.

    As for my choice – I ordered the Grizzly G0500 on Saturday. Now I just need to wait for the truck and get the 220 wired into the shop (ok – garage). I think this was a pretty personal decision and I had several other top choices. The Northstate or Yorkcraft looked good from a price point. The Oasis had me very intrigued as well. However I had a little more faith in the Grizzly name. I was also very strongly considering getting a PM60B or General International locally, but the couple of hundred more I just couldn't pry out of my wallet.

    The manufacturer listed is just my best guess in many instances. Very often taken from hearsay here or other forums. Geetech obviously makes a lot jointers and will brand them for almost anyone. Jingteng with the “new” DJ-20 and Oasis machine are interesting to me as well. I'm sure that if I wanted to buy a whole freight container from either of them I could get one hell of a deal

    Here is the list - you might need to stretch your browser pretty wide to be able to read it - but it looks ok at least in my browser (firefox).

    -- Dan




    <table border="1" cellspacing="0" cols="11" frame="void" rules="groups"> <colgroup><col width="127"><col width="91"><col width="73"><col width="62"><col width="23"><col width="141"><col width="65"><col width="51"><col width="65"><col width="172"><col width="253"></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td align="left" height="17" width="127">Brand</td> <td align="left" width="91">Manufacturer</td> <td align="left" width="73">Model</td> <td align="left" width="62">Price</td> <td align="left" width="23">
    </td> <td align="left" width="141">Seller</td> <td align="left" width="65">Table Length</td> <td align="left" width="51"># cutters</td> <td align="left" width="65">cuts/min</td> <td align="left" width="172">Motor</td> <td align="left" width="253">Comments</td> </tr> </tbody> <tbody> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Delta </td> <td align="left">?</td> <td align="left">37-380</td> <td sdval="1100" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,100</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Woodworkers Supply</td> <td sdval="73" sdnum="1033;" align="right">73</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="16800" sdnum="1033;" align="right">16800</td> <td align="left">1 1/2 HP, 120/240V</td> <td align="left">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Delta </td> <td align="left">?</td> <td align="left">37-380</td> <td sdval="1000" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,000</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Utterguys.com</td> <td sdval="73" sdnum="1033;" align="right">73</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="16800" sdnum="1033;" align="right">16800</td> <td align="left">1 1/2 HP, 120/240V</td> <td align="left">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Delta </td> <td align="left">?</td> <td align="left">37-380</td> <td sdval="1050" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,050</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Amazon</td> <td sdval="73" sdnum="1033;" align="right">73</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="16800" sdnum="1033;" align="right">16800</td> <td align="left">1 1/2 HP, 120/240V</td> <td align="left">$25 off and Free Shipping</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">NorthState</td> <td align="left">GeeTech</td> <td align="left">CT-200</td> <td sdval="800" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$800</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Leneave Supply</td> <td sdval="66" sdnum="1033;" align="right">66</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="13500" sdnum="1033;" align="right">13500</td> <td align="left">2HP </td> <td align="left">About $90-$115 shipping </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Seco</td> <td align="left">GeeTech</td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td sdval="970" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$970</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Tried & True Tools </td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Sunhill</td> <td align="left">GeeTech</td> <td align="left">CT-204L</td> <td sdval="795" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$795</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Sunhill</td> <td sdval="72" sdnum="1033;" align="right">72</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="18000" sdnum="1033;" align="right">18000</td> <td align="left">2HP 1Ph 220V</td> <td align="left">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">YorkCraft</td> <td align="left">GeeTech</td> <td align="left">YC-8J</td> <td sdval="650" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$650</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Wilke</td> <td sdval="72" sdnum="1033;" align="right">72</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="14400" sdnum="1033;" align="right">14400</td> <td align="left">1-1/2 HP 1PH 110/220V</td> <td align="left">Shipping - $195 w/ liftgate</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Bridgewood</td> <td align="left">GeeTech ?</td> <td align="left">BW-8J</td> <td sdval="950" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$950</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Wilke</td> <td sdval="66" sdnum="1033;" align="right">66</td> <td sdval="4" sdnum="1033;" align="right">4</td> <td sdval="18000" sdnum="1033;" align="right">18000</td> <td align="left">1-1/2 HP 1PH 110/220V</td> <td align="left">Shipping - $195 w/ liftgate</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Grizzly</td> <td align="left">GeeTech ?</td> <td align="left">G0500</td> <td sdval="875" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$875</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Grizzly.com</td> <td sdval="75" sdnum="1033;" align="right">75</td> <td sdval="4" sdnum="1033;" align="right">4</td> <td sdval="22000" sdnum="1033;" align="right">22000</td> <td align="left">2HP 110V/220V 1Ph</td> <td align="left">$78 for Shipping</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Grizzly</td> <td align="left">GeeTech ?</td> <td align="left">G1018</td> <td sdval="765" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$765</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Grizzly.com</td> <td sdval="65" sdnum="1033;" align="right">65</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="15000" sdnum="1033;" align="right">15000</td> <td align="left">1-1/2 H.P., 220V</td> <td align="left">$78 for Shipping</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Jet</td> <td align="left">GeeTech ?</td> <td align="left">JJ-8CS</td> <td sdval="1100" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,100</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Amazon</td> <td sdval="66" sdnum="1033;" align="right">66</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="16500" sdnum="1033;" align="right">16500</td> <td align="left">2 HP, 1 Ph 230V </td> <td align="left">$25 off and Free Shipping</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Powermatic </td> <td align="left">GeeTech ?</td> <td align="left">60B</td> <td sdval="1145" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,145</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Amazon</td> <td sdval="73" sdnum="1033;" align="right">73</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="21000" sdnum="1033;" align="right">21000</td> <td align="left">2HP 230V 1PH</td> <td align="left">$25 off and Free Shipping</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Powermatic </td> <td align="left">GeeTech ?</td> <td align="left">60B</td> <td sdval="1145" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,145</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Tried & True Tools </td> <td sdval="73" sdnum="1033;" align="right">73</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="21000" sdnum="1033;" align="right">21000</td> <td align="left">2HP 230V 1PH</td> <td align="left">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Powermatic </td> <td align="left">GeeTech ?</td> <td align="left">60B</td> <td sdval="1257" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,257</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Woodworkers Supply</td> <td sdval="73" sdnum="1033;" align="right">73</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="21000" sdnum="1033;" align="right">21000</td> <td align="left">2HP 230V 1PH</td> <td align="left">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Woodtech</td> <td align="left">GeeTech ?</td> <td align="left">907-064</td> <td sdval="820" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$820</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Woodworkers Supply</td> <td sdval="67" sdnum="1033;" align="right">67</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="13500" sdnum="1033;" align="right">13500</td> <td align="left"> 1-1/2HP, 115VAC,</td> <td align="left">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Shop Fox</td> <td align="left">GeeTech (Griz)</td> <td align="left">W1684</td> <td sdval="1000" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,000</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Tool Coral</td> <td sdval="70" sdnum="1033;" align="right">70</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="16500" sdnum="1033;" align="right">16500</td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">http://tool-corral.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page90.html</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Shop Fox</td> <td align="left">GeeTech (Griz)</td> <td align="left">W1684</td> <td sdval="1105" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,105</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Thomas Tool & Supply</td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">
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    </td> <td align="left">$1176 with tax</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">General</td> <td align="left">General</td> <td align="left">480 Used</td> <td sdval="1500" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,500</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Tried & True Tools </td> <td sdval="74" sdnum="1033;" align="right">74</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="13500" sdnum="1033;" align="right">13500</td> <td align="left">1 1/2 HP, 230 V, </td> <td align="left">Has Dispoz-a-blade with extra blades</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">General</td> <td align="left">General</td> <td align="left">480-1-M2</td> <td sdval="2230" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$2,230</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Tried & True Tools </td> <td sdval="74" sdnum="1033;" align="right">74</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="13500" sdnum="1033;" align="right">13500</td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">General</td> <td align="left">General</td> <td align="left">480-1-M2</td> <td sdval="2265" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$2,265</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Utterguys.com</td> <td sdval="74" sdnum="1033;" align="right">74</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="13500" sdnum="1033;" align="right">13500</td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">General Internation</td> <td align="left">General</td> <td align="left">80-200-M1</td> <td sdval="1270" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,270</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Utterguys.com</td> <td sdval="67" sdnum="1033;" align="right">67</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="15000" sdnum="1033;" align="right">15000</td> <td align="left">1 1/2 HP, 230 V, </td> <td align="left">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">General Internation</td> <td align="left">General</td> <td align="left">80-200-M1</td> <td sdval="1300" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,300</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Tried & True Tools </td> <td sdval="67" sdnum="1033;" align="right">67</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="15000" sdnum="1033;" align="right">15000</td> <td align="left">1 1/2 HP, 230 V, </td> <td align="left">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">General Internation</td> <td align="left">General</td> <td align="left">80-200-M1</td> <td sdval="1250" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,250</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Thomas Tool & Supply</td> <td sdval="67" sdnum="1033;" align="right">67</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="15000" sdnum="1033;" align="right">15000</td> <td align="left">1 1/2 HP, 230 V, </td> <td align="left">$1330 with tax</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Delta </td> <td align="left">Jinteng</td> <td align="left">37-365X</td> <td sdval="1700" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,700</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Amazon</td> <td sdval="76" sdnum="1033;" align="right">76</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="16500" sdnum="1033;" align="right">16500</td> <td align="left">1 1/2 HP, 120/240V</td> <td align="left">$25 off and Free Shipping</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Delta </td> <td align="left">Jinteng</td> <td align="left">37-365X</td> <td sdval="1600" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,600</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Utterguys.com</td> <td sdval="76" sdnum="1033;" align="right">76</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="16500" sdnum="1033;" align="right">16500</td> <td align="left">1 1/2 HP, 120/240V</td> <td align="left">X5 version of DJ20</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Delta </td> <td align="left">Jinteng</td> <td align="left">37-365X</td> <td sdval="1600" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,600</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Woodworkers Supply</td> <td sdval="76" sdnum="1033;" align="right">76</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="16500" sdnum="1033;" align="right">16500</td> <td align="left">1 1/2 HP, 120/240V</td> <td align="left">X5 version of DJ20</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Oasis Machinery</td> <td align="left">Jinteng</td> <td align="left">J1008C</td> <td sdval="700" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$700</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">ToolMarts</td> <td sdval="76" sdnum="1033;" align="right">76</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="14400" sdnum="1033;" align="right">14400</td> <td align="left">1 1/2 H.P., 240V 1Ph</td> <td align="left">http://www.toolmarts.com/product1412.html $220 Shipping + 150 liftgate</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Powermatic </td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">60 Used</td> <td sdval="1200" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,200</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Tried & True Tools </td> <td sdval="73" sdnum="1033;" align="right">73</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="21000" sdnum="1033;" align="right">21000</td> <td align="left">2HP 230V 1PH</td> <td align="left">$25 off and Free Shipping</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">Powermatic </td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">PJ882 </td> <td sdval="1532" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="right">$1,532</td> <td sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0;-[$$-409]#,##0" align="left">
    </td> <td align="left">Amazon</td> <td sdval="82" sdnum="1033;" align="right">82</td> <td sdval="3" sdnum="1033;" align="right">3</td> <td sdval="21000" sdnum="1033;" align="right">21000</td> <td align="left">2HP 230V 1PH</td> <td align="left">Parallelogram style -$25 off and Free Shipping</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

  2. #2
    Dan, thanks for all your helpful information. I'm sure many of us will benefit from your research.

  3. #3
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    Pretty good. I like your choice also.

    A couple corrections if anyone is interested:
    - The Yorkcraft is not a Geetech. It is the same as the non-DJ20 Delta.
    - The GI is a Geetech.
    - The PM60 is a PM. I suppose it's possible it could be made by Geetech, but it isn't the same design as all the other Geetech clones.

    I don't know NorthState and Seco, but you can remove ?s from other Geetechs not already mentioned.

    Yeah, I did too much research also

    Jay
    Jay St. Peter

  4. #4
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    That looks like a LOT of research!

    I am surprised and gratified to learn that I purchased my Delta DJ-20 X5 jointer for less in Canadian $ than you have listed it for in USA $.
    Last edited by Frank Pellow; 03-28-2005 at 6:12 PM.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
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    Grand Marais, MN. A transplant from Minneapolis
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    Hey Homie,

    Thanks for the info. I See from the shop manual that the <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cols=11 rules=groups border=1 frame=void><TBODY><TR><TD align=left height=17>Powermatic </TD><TD align=left>
    </TD><TD align=left>PJ882 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    is shipped as one unit. Does any one know if:
    1)That is true.
    2)If seperating it for stairs will void the warrentee.
    3)Seperating it will affect the table callibration.

    Thanks
    TJH
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    Tyler---Yes, I believe it is true that it comes in one piece. I called WMH and talked to a tech there, I'm pretty sure that he confirmed it is shpipped in one piece. You would probably have to call them for a definitive answer on your other questions.

    I have the same concerns as you about the PM, how would I get it down the basement stairs?

    Dan
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    Thanks Dan, Did you go for the DJ20??? Tough call here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayStPeter
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    - The GI is a Geetech.
    Jay
    That's what I was thinking, but wasn't certain....glad to see it clarified.
    Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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    Dan:
    It is very thoughtful of you to post this information. Thank you. I have been looking for a jointer for quite awhile and this table really helps me narrow the choices.

    thanks joe
    P.s. Now, can you do the same with bandsaws?

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    I'm glad to see that people are finding it useful. I didn't realize that the General International was also GeeTech - but I'm not surprised. I know that the PM 60A or older PM 60 are not Geetech - but when I looked at the PM60B and a "Seco" which had the Geetech label on it they looked similary in a lot of ways. In particular the fence stop design was very damn similar if not identical. Now I didn't have them side by side (half way across the store from each other) and the motors were definetly different as was the funky lever/twist infeed adjustment. I woiuld also suspect that Powermatic would have tighter tolerances, but have no way of proving that one way or the other.

    As for bandsaws - for me that's a project best saved for another year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott spencer
    That's what I was thinking, but wasn't certain....glad to see it clarified.
    GI and Craftsman Professional have a variant of the GeeTech that has extendable rollers on the beds. Neat idea, not sure how well it works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Oelke
    I know that the PM 60A or older PM 60 are not Geetech - but when I looked at the PM60B and a "Seco" which had the Geetech label on it they looked similary in a lot of ways. In particular the fence stop design was very damn similar if not identical. Now I didn't have them side by side (half way across the store from each other) and the motors were definetly different as was the funky lever/twist infeed adjustment. I woiuld also suspect that Powermatic would have tighter tolerances, but have no way of proving that one way or the other.

    As for bandsaws - for me that's a project best saved for another year.
    You could be right. The last magazine test on 8" jointers was about a year and a half ago. It listed clones and had the DJ-20 and PM60 as the only two cloneless machines in the test. I thought it was a 60B, but I really don't remember. Your listed price sure seems less than the PMs in the test. I remember them being more than DJ-20s.

    If you thought jointer research was a lot of work, just wait until you get to bandsaws.

    Jay
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    Tyler---90% sold on the DJ20, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Have a couple days elft for the rebate offer. If all other things were equal, that PM sure sounds tempting though, of course I haven't seen one other than pics.

    Dan
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayStPeter
    You could be right. The last magazine test on 8" jointers was about a year and a half ago.
    I don't suppose you recall which magazine it was?

    BTW: anybody have any experience with the Bridgewood BW-8J? There's a used one for sale I found... just considering the possibilities vs. a new Grizzly. Thoughts?

    - John

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Hulett
    I don't suppose you recall which magazine it was?

    BTW: anybody have any experience with the Bridgewood BW-8J? There's a used one for sale I found... just considering the possibilities vs. a new Grizzly. Thoughts?

    - John
    I don't recall the magazine, but I don't think it was Wood or FWW. Maybe PWW or WWJ?

    I had my mind made up on the BW-8J before finding a good deal on a used Grizzly. So, I'd go for it. I think that BW makes one of the best versions of the Geetech. They use a nice US motor and their switch and cabinet are good quality. Aside from 3/4 knife cutterheads and bed extensions, those are the things that differentiate the clones.

    Jay
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    Be careful

    Quote Originally Posted by John Hulett
    BTW: anybody have any experience with the Bridgewood BW-8J? There's a used one for sale I found... just considering the possibilities vs. a new Grizzly. Thoughts?

    - John
    John- That BW-8J has the exact same description and pictures as one sold in York, PA 2 weeks ago (item # 4364445318). I emailed the seller to find out if he is using a generic decription and picture or what. No response yet. The seller ID was also opened on the 25th. This combination of factors sent flags off with me. I am also looking at a 8" jointer, but only live 2 hours from Wilke, so I may make a trip up there.

    Tom

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