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    DC Remote Switch

    Any recommendations on a remote control for the DC? I'v got the HF 2HP model with 4" port and filter.
    Andy Kertesz

    " Impaled on nails of ice, raked by emerald fire"...... King Crimson '71

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    If only a 2hp, it should pull less than 20A. Can you just hard wire a regular 20A switch where you want it? (Im suggesting this because Im in the middle of doing the same, and my electrical supply house had a standard 20A switch like a light switch, so Im just going to put it on the wall where I want, which works for me) I dont know if they have three ways.

    Otherwise I would wire a low voltage circuit and a relay. (assuming you could live without 'wireless' remote)

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    Christmas tree remote and contactor with 120 volt coil.

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    not being a fan of having to activate a DC and then activate the power tool, i find that these are absolutely the best products out there for hobbyists to control tools which slave to a dust generating power tool:

    http://www.ivacswitch.com/index.action

    the products, and the company behind the products, are positively first rate. for a HF DC, a relay would be needed if used with an ivac switch, but would probably not be needed if used in conjunction with ivac pro 20A wireless switches. i use the ivac switch and have two of them daisy chained together so as to activate a DC and a shop vac when a dust generating tool is activated. i especially like the idea of only having to press the power tool "on" button, and then the slave tools automatically activate. here's my set up, along with a pic of a relay which provided for 220v power tool activation of my 110v ivac switches and my 220v DC adn 110v shop vac, all by merely activating a 220v TS.100_1234.jpg100_1042 - jpeg.jpg

    and here's a short video of the whole auto activated DC system in operation:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3em7TVAcX4

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    Andrew
    I use a Radio Shack remote control light switch. Which operates 120v coil on a 220v 40 amp relay for the DC. The controller is clipped to my shop apron. The nice thing is this setup has been in my shop for over 15 years, with no problems other then battery replacements. Tom

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    I use X10 remotes and modules. I've been using that setup for many years with no issues. I added a red light on the same address so I can tell when the collector is on.

    x10.com is a good source. So is ebay. HD243 is one part number for a module. Mine is only 110v, so I use an X10 outlet. You'll need a transceiver, remote, and the module.

    Tony

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    Home Depot had a sale on some GE remote switches (so I bought three packs.... don't even remember if it was one or two in a pack). Works great with my DC. Do not have one here to get the model number, but, probably something like these:

    $20
    http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...1#.UNIqV9c67jk

    $18
    http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=203638969&storeId=10051&l angId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_sku=203638969&ci_kw={keyword} &kwd={keyword}&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googleads-_-pla-_-203638969&ci_gpa=pla#.UNIpBtc67jk

    My remote can handle three switches. It is very nice. Lowes also carries some. Verify how much power your DC draws, and that the switch can handle it.

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    I use the ivac remote setup. Very happy with it, simple. Absolutely fantastic company to deal with. I had a purchase question on a Sunday evening. I emailed the company not expecting a response until Monday morning. Tha VP emailed back within 20 minutes. Take a look at their website www.ivacswitch.com they have several models to meet any need and the prices are affordable. I run a 1.5 HP Felder AF 14 on 230V, 20 AMP circuit. The machine says it pulls 14 AMPS, however, during start-up most DC pull much more than that. I went to their contractor model with a remote to assure I would have no issues. You also can run up to 8 different tools off one switch (need a tool remote for each). You can find most of their basic switches at Woodcraft etc.

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    I also use the X10 modules and remote. My system is set up so that the X10 modules control a remote contactor which switches the 220VAC for the DC. The DC is disabled when the shop lights are off. The small remote clips to my shop apron. There is also a switch with pilot light that disables the DC when the shop lights are on, when I want to service the system. Note in the photo the current sensing loop for measuring DC motor current (in AC amps) . Works very well.

    DC-Control.jpg
    Last edited by Paul Stoops; 12-19-2012 at 10:39 PM.

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    Would someone who uses a 110v remote to switch a 220v DC relay please post some detail of their setup?
    I'm getting ready to install one, and would rather use the wheel someone else invented, especially if it keeps me from making a silly mistake.


    Thanks!!!

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave huber View Post
    Would someone who uses a 110v remote to switch a 220v DC relay please post some detail of their setup?
    I'm getting ready to install one, and would rather use the wheel someone else invented, especially if it keeps me from making a silly mistake.


    Thanks!!!

    Dave
    Why not just wire a 220 switch? This is what I was saying... My electrical supply had switches for 220 20A that looked just like a regular 110 switch. Not sure the advantage of a relay on a 110 circuit ( lower voltage, like 24vac, sure)

    ?

    Here is one for $11

    http://www.busybeetools.com/products...P-20A-CSA.html

    Ah, here is what my supply house had (similar to)

    http://hdsupplysolutions.com/shop/pr..._switch-302004

    Only if hard wiring works for you (wireless remote is a different goal.....).
    Last edited by Carl Beckett; 12-20-2012 at 7:20 AM.

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    Here is what I use. It has a 100-150ft range RF remote and is intended for dust collectors. Been using mine for 3+ years with no problems. This one is a 220v version but a 110 is available.
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    I use an ivac style system, works great. Prevents me from "just running this piece quickly" without dust collection. I connect all my machines to a single point, and run them thru the machine port on the "ivac." this way, any machine turns on triggers the dc without a bunch of remotes getting involved.
    http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/pag...t=1,42401&ap=1
    Buddy of mine uses a stomp switch to turn on his dc. Works well for him, simple to rig up.
    http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...at=1,240,41065
    bear in mind we both have small shops, abou 9x20 so rigging this safely is pretty easy.
    Btw Paul, I really like your current sensing loop. I don't really need something like that, but I really NEED something cool like that. My wife will be upset.
    Last edited by paul cottingham; 12-20-2012 at 9:46 PM.
    Paul

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    Dave huber..... The tutorial at: http://www.beautifulwood.net/html/wireless_dc.html is where I learned how to use contactors with inexpensive remotes; it has changed how I work in my shop. It is very easy to understand, and easy to duplicate. It was someone here on Sawmillcreek.org that first posted the link in response to a question exactly like yours.

    This is what Thomas Hotchkin and Bruce Wrenn above are refering to.

    Lornie

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    Great link Lornie!! Very well put together how-to

    Thanks!
    pim using X-10 to switch other stuff already, so this is the perfect tutorial for me.

    thanks again!

    Dave

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