I do like guinness, too, but I cannot get along with the cans or the bottles. I like my beer to be something I can drink casually but still taste like beer. Yuengling fits that well, penn pilsner that's brewed here are both good beers, but the latter is a bit expensive for my taste. I do think there's an element of is it good or isn't it good, and if someone has to explain why it's good in extreme technical nature, then something must be missing. The german fits, though, I've got nothing in my bloodlines but german and german swiss until I ruined it going forward by marrying a woman who is 1/4th italian. The germans in central PA didn't get very far for hundreds of years, and they had to marry others of the same ilk because nobody else would put up with their thrift.
Mel mentions grolsch, that's good, too. I guess it's not too far away in the spectrum.
My ire is also driven by the husbands of my wife's friends who I'm convinced drink lots of trendy beers that just don't taste that good, but they drink them because they want people to think how thoughtful and cute the packaging, flavor concoctions and names are. But most of them just aren't very good, which they often confirm "I don't think I like this one". Yeah, nobody does, the maker spent tons of money and time trying to figure out how to make it look cool, but they made it taste like they forgot to develop what it actually is. Put some yuengling lager, porter or penn pilsner in the cooler so that the rest of us can relax and enjoy something. No need to stoop to the level of any of the predatory beers that strongarm distributors and set policy based on legal intimidation and race car marketing, but a good plain local beer would be fine, and I won't tell anyone that the hubbies are so uncool for not having a beer with a picture of some guy hanging upside down with an umbrella over a madchen sitting somewhere with a poodle, orsome other goofy label that makes no sense on a beer.