WARNING concerning Access Used Lasers

[Scott Shepherd]

Looks like something might have happened to them. Their website is no longer active.

[Ed Coleman]

I just got off the phone with the Wisconsin bureau of consumer protection and was told that Access Business Solutions has declared themselves insolvent and has gone out of business. Their website is down and their phone is disconnected. The rep I spoke with indicated that the only recourse I would have at this point would be to hire a lawyer and sue. I asked if he could send the case back to the Wisconsin Attorney General office (where I originally filed complaint). He said there was not enough complaints against the company to warrant that action; noting that he was only able to fine one complaint other than mine on file with their office.

I don't know what their situation is, if they are truly "insolvent" or if this is simply a tactic to avoid responsibility. When I was last able to log onto their website, they still had my equipment listed for sale, it would be nice to at least get my engraver back - seems like that will require a lawyer and an interstate lawsuit!

-Ed

[Ed Coleman]

Information from the Better Business Bureau's web site regarding Access Business Solutions:
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[Dan Hintz]

Ed,

See some of the earlier posts. They've started business under a new name, but my understanding is they are still selling used lasers on consignment. Them changing business names makes things more difficult for you, but the law also takes a dim view of people who close a business and start a new one over and over to avoid debt.

I'd look for someone else to talk to...

[Keith Outten]

It appears that this company is still in business.


Rob Bosworth
Engravers Connection
(715) 808-8061
engraversconnection.com

If both companies are not incorporated then Rob and Diane's personal assets may be at risk. Opening one company while closing another may not protect them depending on how their business is registered.
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[Kim Vellore]

Just FYI on BBB I thought was very interesting

http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/30/news...eau/index.html

I wonder who rates BBB

[Dan Hintz]

Just FYI on BBB I thought was very interesting

http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/30/news...eau/index.html

I wonder who rates BBB

Here's a fun quote from that article...

Meanwhile, consumer lawsuits aren't factored into grades at all, no matter how many there are against a single company.

Explains a lot, don't you think?

[Josh Phelan]

It appears that this company is still in business.


Rob Bosworth
Engravers Connection
(715) 808-8061
engraversconnection.com

If both companies are not incorporated then Rob and Diane's personal assets may be at risk. Opening one company while closing another may not protect them depending on how their business is registered.
.

Im wondering if we can get a show of hands of who's still looking to collect money from these people. I know I am.

[Ed Coleman]

Josh:

I am still looking into ways to collect...I'm hoping with more "complaints" we can actually get law enforcement interested.

-Ed

[Scott Shepherd]

For what it's worth, I had a customer not pay us and have taken the legal actions to deal with it. The first thing I did was file a Warrant in Debt. That set a court date (which I assume a lawyer could show up and do for you). If they didn't show up to the court date, then you automatically get the judgement in your favor. If they show up, they have to prove that they don't owe you the money. Once you get the judgement, it dings their credit record pretty badly. It's up to the two parties after that to work out a payment plan. If one can't be reached, you can garnish their bank account, have their assets seized and sold at auction to cover what's owed to you.

We did that, got the judgement and after 6 months of paying us, they stopped. We went back to the court a couple weeks ago and filed the paperwork to garnish their bank account. When that happens, it's going to lock out their bank account, the court actually seizes the money in the account and 45 days from filing, the court will give us the money if they were able to recover it.

Might be worth doing. You might just have to contact a lawyer in that area and have them file it all. I believe you can put all attorney costs into the amount due as well.

Something worth looking into.

[Bill Hoss]

So, can anyone recommend a layer in Hudson, WI? They also owe me money and I've had nothing but promises for the past year.

Bill Hoss
Lake Junction Models, LLC

[Jacques Babilon]

Some more infos after our judgement:

My name is Jacky Babilon , Manager/part owner OF KCrea Ltd company, which is established in Rwanda.
In sept 2009 we ordered one laser machine from Diane C. Bosworth , Access Business Solutions, Inc. and she never send the machine. (19000 USD)
After months & months of promisses from Diane to refund ... nothing came back. She complained about the economic crisis in the USA etc …
We have been in contact with the USA Embassy of Kigali who told us that they can’t help us as it was a business problem…?
After seen this website :
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthre...d-Lasers/page8
We threatened Diane with complaint in the court and then received in june 2010 and feb 2011 a beginning of refund (2500 USD) and promisses of integral refund every month ... and nothing since then.
Today we are in a procedure with a lawyer and judgement has been taken by the court. We win but … no payment cames back ?
It's incredible that a company likes Access Business Solutions is still in business today and they never been in judgement ?
They are still working today under the name of
Rob Bosworth
Engravers Connection
(715) 808-8061
engraversconnection.com
If anyone is interested to know more about this case, I have all documents to prove my claim, and our lawyer too.
Enright Law Office
2215 E Clairemont Ave, Ste 5
Eau Claire WI 54701
Office Phone: 715-832-6645
Fax: 715-832-8438
If someone can help us, on how we can be paid back after judgement ? What’s the procedure in the USA ?
Many thanks
Jacky Babilon

[Scott Shepherd]

If someone can help us, on how we can be paid back after judgement ? What’s the procedure in the USA ?
Many thanks
Jacky Babilon

Hi Jacky, very sorry for you going through that. Talk to your lawyer. A Judgement is not a promise to pay, it's just the first legal step of trying to get your money back. It's the legal ruling that they owe you the money. Sounds like you got that. Now the court says they owe you the money, you have to follow other steps to get your money.

It's my understanding that the following methods are methods of getting payment. You should talk to your lawyer about which one makes the most sense for your situation :

-Garnishment

-Writ of Fieri Facias

-Docketing of Judgement

-Interrogatories

[Tony Zona]

Can anyone tell if their current business address is the same as their home address.

I wonder if that meets their local zoning requirements.

[Josh Phelan]

Can anyone tell if their current business address is the same as their home address.

I wonder if that meets their local zoning requirements.

It would seem like it is their business address according to google maps.