Okay, so the saw I picked up from the pawn shop wasn't the bargain I thought it was. The repair said that the muffler screw had been put in with lock tight, or something, because he couldn't get it out, but if he could he was sure he'd see a burned up piston. I know I didn't do it I never had the thing running long enough to burn it up! lol. On the upside I sent my father a text saying a wanted a new chainsaw cuz that one was a lemon and I got an unexpected answer. So now I need to know of a saw where cost and quality are both acceptable. I found a "Yard Dog" that comes with a 20" and a 14" bar/chain that falls under the $200 mark, but I've never heard of the brand. There was a Blue something that had the same deal with the 2 bars/chains. Also, why would you want a 14" bar if you have a 20"? Thanks in advance!