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Thread: New "inmproved" reci tube series - W series

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    New "inmproved" reci tube series - W series

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    W2-90W Peak Power 100W
    W4-120W Peak Power 135W
    W6-150W Peak Power 170W
    W8-170W Peak Power 195W

    Tube Life: 10000hours, warrenty time:10
    months

    Reci have nothing on their site and I have no idea of what the improvements are - I would imagine you also need the corresponding PS , I was about to order an extra spare tube or so , think I will try one of the new ones.
    Rodney Gold, Toker Bros trophies, Cape Town , South Africa :
    Roland 2300 rotary . 3 x ISEL's ..1m x 500mm CnC .
    Tekcel 1200x2400 router , 900 x 600 60w Shenui laser , 1200 x 800 80w Reci tube Shenhui Laser
    6 x longtai lasers 400x600 60w , 1 x longtai 20w fiber
    2x Gravo manual engravers , Roland 540 large format printer/cutter. CLTT setup
    1600mm hot and cold laminator , 3x Dopag resin dispensers , sandblasting setup, acid etcher

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    My machine was delayed a week due to the switch over from old to new so in a couple weeks I should have two PS's and tubes. I don't know the difference either?

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    According to Shenui , you can use your old power supplys with the new tubes , they recon the 150+ watt tubes are still a little flaky in terms of output stability
    Im ordering the W2 90w tubes
    Rodney Gold, Toker Bros trophies, Cape Town , South Africa :
    Roland 2300 rotary . 3 x ISEL's ..1m x 500mm CnC .
    Tekcel 1200x2400 router , 900 x 600 60w Shenui laser , 1200 x 800 80w Reci tube Shenhui Laser
    6 x longtai lasers 400x600 60w , 1 x longtai 20w fiber
    2x Gravo manual engravers , Roland 540 large format printer/cutter. CLTT setup
    1600mm hot and cold laminator , 3x Dopag resin dispensers , sandblasting setup, acid etcher

  4. #4
    Will be interesting to see how they go. I can do good quality 5 point Arial with my V4 at 200mm/s bidirectional, but the best engraving is at low power levels (ie 10-15%), which tallies with comments in the information that is with the tubes to the effect that they do their best high speed rastering at 4mA. But at high power levels the response time of the V4 100W is not so good, but is fabulous for cutting.

    I would also be interested to know if the difference between the power supplies for different powers is just the potentiometer setting on the side? There are other pots inside on the board.
    Shenhui 1280 100W RECI

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    So now that the lowest RECI tube is 90W instead of 80W am I still better off going with the W2 tube or finding a different brand tube to stay at 80W? I ask this because I want to stay in the range where I can both cut and engrave and have enough control to engrave delicate items such as paper.

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    My old style 100W engraves paper. I bet the new 90W will engrave at least as well as the old 80W anyway.
    Shenhui 1280 100W RECI

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    Are there any 900x600mm lasers which can fit the W4 tube? Or are they all W2s?

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    Tube Sizes


    http://en.bjefr.com/


    ZN Series


    ZN-1250:
    Length: 1250mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 80 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 95 Watts
    Working Current: 26 Ma


    ZN-1450:
    Length: 1450mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 100 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 120 Watts
    Working Current: 28 Ma


    ZN-1650:
    Length: 1650mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 130 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 150 Watts
    Working Current: 30 Ma


    ZN-1850:
    Length: 1850mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 150 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 180 Watts
    Working Current: 30 Ma


    F Series:


    F2:
    Length: 1250mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 80 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 95 Watts
    Working Current: 28 Ma


    F4:
    Length: 1450mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 100 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 120 Watts
    Working Current: 30 Ma


    F6:
    Length: 1650mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 130 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 150 Watts
    Working Current: 30 Ma


    F8:
    Length: 1850mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 150 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 170 Watts
    Working Current: 30 Ma


    F10:
    Length: 2050mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 180 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 195 Watts
    Working Current: 30 Ma

    The new ZX series from EFR are amazing bits of kit. The ZX1850 peaks at 188 Watts (Thermopiled yesterday)


    RECI:


    http://www.recilaser.com/en/products.htm


    W Series:


    W2:
    Length: 1120mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 80 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 85 Watts
    Working Current: 27 Ma


    W4:
    Length: 1400mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 100 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 120 Watts
    Working Current: 28 Ma


    W6:
    Length: 1650mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 130 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 150 Watts
    Working Current: 30 Ma


    W8:
    Length: 1850mm +/- 20mm
    Diameter: 80mm +/- 2mm
    Rated Power Output: 150 Watts
    Maximum Power Output: 180 Watts
    Working Current: <30 Ma
    You did what !

  9. #9
    Dave

    The first link is not working. Have you listed it correctly?
    Mike Null

    St. Louis Laser, Inc.

    Trotec Speedy 300, 80 watt
    Gravograph IS400
    Woodworking shop CLTT and Laser Sublimation
    Dye Sublimation
    CorelDraw X5, X7

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    I am not sure how it fits as the tube is as long as the chassis is listed as, but I ordered a TR-9060 900x600mm from Triumph, and they assured me it would come with a new RECI Z4 tube, 100 watt power supply, CW-5000 chiller, etc.

    We will see what shows up.

    They originally gave me the option of an "80 watt" or "100 watt." I told them that RECI no longer makes an 80 watt. They came back and said that they are used to calling it an 80 watt, but it is indeed a 90 watt now. I asked if their "100 watt" option was a W2 or a W4, and they said rest assured, it was a W4. I then insisted on a new Z4, and they said no problem.

    http://www.recilaser.com/en/newsInfo...3144ef04a5.htm

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Null View Post
    Dave

    The first link is not working. Have you listed it correctly?
    Hi Mike,

    Their site is aweful for responding, it goes up and down almost on a daily basis

    best wishes

    Dave
    You did what !

  12. #12
    Hi Rob,

    RECI like most far eastern tube makers used to quote peak powers (I guess as a selling point) but got slated quite badly for it when end users power levels dropped back. The W6 was rated as a 150 watt but only pumps 150 if you run it above the warranted amperage.Now the W6 is rated for continuous use at 130 watts.

    The W4 is a 100 watt tube but has a peak power of 120 watts.

    The catch out is from RECI's site

    The working current: test current is 30mA. Maximum working current is 30mA. The running current
    must be kept below 28mA
    . The life span can reach 10,000 hours if the current is kept below 26mA.
    My general understanding is the tubes pump the max output at max test current but give the lower nominal figure if you stay below the 28mA and give the longest life below 26mA, I have known RECI to bounce warranty claims if the tubes are run at max current.

    Can't speak for the Z series as I've never used one but they seem to be going for the coated electrodes the same way EFR are. My last 80 watt F2 EFR lasted for 5,500 hours and thermopiled at 78 watts when I swapped it out, my current ZX1850 EFR is rated at 150 watts but is thermopiling at 188 at 80% current at the moment.

    hope that makes some kind of sense

    best wishes

    Dave
    You did what !

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Sheldrake View Post
    I have known RECI to bounce warranty claims if the tubes are run at max current.
    Their website says that they deny warranty claims if the exterior surface of the negative electrode container is of certain colors:

    http://www.recilaser.com/en/newsInfo...4bf98b123b.htm

    Is the current something that I should check myself when I get it and easy to adjust? Or should I tell the company to set it to some value before shipment?

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Silvers View Post
    Their website says that they deny warranty claims if the exterior surface of the negative electrode container is of certain colors:

    http://www.recilaser.com/en/newsInfo...4bf98b123b.htm

    Is the current something that I should check myself when I get it and easy to adjust? Or should I tell the company to set it to some value before shipment?
    It's not that easy to adjust Rob, the easier way is to run the machine at <80% power on the control panel (you can set the max power on the DSP rather than adjusting the tiny screw on the PSU)

    Any settings you make in LaserCUT (or whatever Triumph call their software) will be a percentage then of what is set on the DSP pad.

    There's something I want to check with a Chinese friend...back in a minute......

    best wishes

    Dave
    You did what !

  15. #15
    Ok - that makes sense to cap it in firmware, but is it easy to use a multimeter to find out which value to cap it at?

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