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Thread: Can OneWay Easy-Core cutters be sharpened on a CBN wheel?

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    Hmm, I will have to ponder that one a bit. I really wanted to talk to Mike down in Phoenix, but he wasn't there. He will be at our Oregon Woodturning Symposium this coming March, so I plan on cornering him and talking about this.

    For now, I will say that for sure, the McNaughton cutting arms get hot when coring. This is not a problem with the Oneway at all. I have 'discussed' this with Kel several times and he does not agree with me at all. The last time I talked to Mike about it, he said, 'Hmm, you might have some thing there'. I now, never touch the blades when I am done coring. Yes they get hot, maybe hot enough to leave a blister if I keep my fingers on it too long. I would have a hard time being convinced that they get hot enough to weaken them to the point of it being the cause of them bending. For sure, with a lot of heavy use, they develop a twist bend in them to the point where the tip can be much lower than the original set height. If you have watched my DVD (now on You Tube), you can see me bend one back straight. So, why does it bend? First reason is there is flex built into the system and blade. This is so that when you have some of those catches, it bends but doesn't break. If you have ever tried to cut off the nub left in the center after you break a core out, when you engage the tip, it drops down as much as an inch on a large bowl. This is because of the flex in the system. So, what generates the heat??? As far as I am concerned, it is because the blade does not run in a true arc all the way to the tip. They are stamped, and because of the flanged tip, the last inch or so of the blade does not fit into the form, and it goes straight. I have checked this out with a number of the blades I have on those big plastic templates with circles up to 20 inch diameter or so). This means that when you are coring, the blade will follow the tip rather than the arc of the blade. When coring small bowls, it isn't as much of a problem. When coring a larger bowl, by the time you get 6 or more inches off the tool rest, you can be off to the side a half inch or so. 1/16 of an inch isn't much on a 3 inch arc, but on an 8 inch arc, it can be a lot. The coring blades ALWAYS drift to the outside of the cut. This means you have a kerf of one arc, and a blade with a slightly different one, and that is why the blade binds in the cut, heat is generated, and you have to open up the kerf some more, either on the top outside, or the bottom inside, so the blade can finish the cut. I do have one blade where I tweaked the tip in a hair, and it actually pulls to the inside of the cut. The Oneway and Woodcut blades are true arcs of a circle. They do not drift or bind when you cut. One of my round-to-it projects will be to make a blade for the McNaughton that is a perfect arc, put a cutter on it and see how true it tracks....

    robo hippy
    Last edited by Reed Gray; 08-02-2014 at 10:50 PM.

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    Reed,

    Found a couple of Pics of the WoodCut Max proto on a Canadian site. Copied below.

    Still think I'll go with the OneWay for now, especially since the Max is still not available for purchase or demo.

    Cheers,
    Frank

    WoodcutMax1.jpg

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  3. #18
    Well, they really beefed up the plate it sits on, and the attachment to the tailstock. That should really help with the vibration part. The whole thing looks much more sturdy.

    robo hippy

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    I wonder if it has other blade sizes or is it one blade per unit?

    Dave Fritz

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    The pictures are mine and yes they have really beefed every thing up and there is no vibrations. Dave there is only one knife which is all you need will cut out a 17" to a 4" core the depth is 6 1/2".
    George

  6. #21
    Well, I just got off the phone with Brad at Packard tools. He had the bigger Woodcut coring blade in stock, but I bought the last one he has at present so I can take it for a test drive. Chatting with him got me a few new thoughts. The big blade is made for removing cores up to 17 inch diameter (core, not bowl size), and down to 12 inch diameter. It seems that Woodcut is planning on us wanting both of their coring systems. This would make it comparable to the Oneway in performance and price if you get the whole set of each. I am not sure when I will get around to testing it out. I will be getting a new knee Sept 4. I will have it for display at the Oregon Woodturning Symposium in March next year.

    robo hippy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed Gray View Post
    I am not sure when I will get around to testing it out. I will be getting a new knee Sept 4. I will have it for display at the Oregon Woodturning Symposium in March next year.

    robo hippy
    Not sure I want to see your knee at a Symposium!

    Cheers,

    Frank
    Choosing Windows 7/8 over Apple OSX and IOS is sort of like choosing Harbor Freight tools over Festool!

    “They come from the desert, but it is we who have our heads in the sand.”
    Ben Weingarten

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    Well, with my hips, they told me I would be back to normal in 6 to 9 months. I made it in about 4. Swimming 5 miles a week, and years of Tai Chi really helped. I have braces now, and have lost 20 pounds. Heck, I may end up with abs....

    robo hippy

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