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    Quick question on a finish for a high chair

    I am finishing up a beech high chair for the grand kid and the future grand kid. I sealed it with Dewaxed shellac. This is not the time for super-expensive varnish.

    Would you recommend finishing with Dewaxed Shellac, regular canned shellac, or poly.

    Emphasis will be on clean-ability.

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    <<<< Emphasis will be on clean-ability.

    Shellac is not a good choice for that requirement. Shellac is quickly damaged by most cleaning chemicals. You will be replacing the finish rather quickly.

    A much better choice is oil based varnish or poly varnish. Varnish is the most resistant to foods and will live through years of cleaning. A lesser but still viable finish would be a waterborne acrylic finish. However this finish will still need re-doing from time to time.
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    OK. Thank you. I'll pick up a quart of poly.
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    And two more options. I have a fresh rattle can of clear lacquer and one of clear enamel. Would you still go with the poly?
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    Lacquer is little better than shellac as far as durability. Your "clear" enamel can be any type of chemical so I can't help you with that.

    For a few child related things I have built, I've use a home made thinned poly and wiped it on. Here's something that might be of interest.

    Here is something that should help. A friend of mine who was an early advocate, put it together years ago and it has worked well for many.

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    There are a number of suggested application regimens that are totally subjective. The number of coats in a given day, the % of cut on various coats, which coat to sand after, when to use the blade and a whole host of other practices are all minor differences between finishers. There are some things that I consider sacred when applying a wipe-on finish.

    First, you can use any full strength oil based clear or non-gloss finish. The gloss of the final coat of finish will determine the final gloss of the finish. Polyurethane varnish or non-poly varnish is fine.

    If you are making your own wipe-on the mix is scientific - thin. I suggest 50/50 with mineral spirits because it is easier to type than any other ratio and easy to remember. Some finish formulators have jumped on the bandwagon and you can now get "wipe on" finish pre-mixed. If you use a pre-mixed, thinning is generally not necessary. But making your own is cheaper and you know what's in it.

    The number of coats in a given day is not important. Important is to apply a wet coat with an applicator and merely get it on. Think of a 16 year old kid working as a busboy at Denny's you have sent over to wipe off a table. Sort of rub/swirl the the material on like you would if you were applying a paste wax. Don't attempt any straight strokes. The applicator should be wet but not soaked. The applicator can be a non-embossed paper towel shop towel, half a T-shirt sleeve or that one sock left after a load of washing. Once applied,leave it alone. The surface should not be glossy or wet looking and, if applied correctly, there should be no "brush stroke" type marks. If you have missed a spot, ignore it - you will get it on the next coat. If you try and fix a missed spot you will leave a mark in the finish.

    Timing for a second coat involves the pinkie test. Touch the surface with your pinkie. If nothing comes off you are ready for another coat. If was tacky 5 minutes ago but not now, apply your next coat just as you applied the previous coat. Remember, you are wet wiping, not flooding. After applying the second coat, let it fully dry for 48 hours. Using 320 paper and a sanding block lightly sand the surface flat. Now, begin applying more coats. Do not sand between coats unless you have allowed more than 24 hours to elapse since the prior coat. The number of coats is not critical - there is no critical or right number to apply. For those who need a rule, four more coats on non-critical surfaces or six more coats on surfaces that will get abraded seems to work.

    After your last coat has dried at least over night you will have boogers in the surface. You should not have marks in the surface because you ignored application flaws. You may have dust, lint and, if you live in Texas, bug legs. Use a utility knife blade at this point. Hold it between your thumb and forefinger, near the vertical, and gently scrape the surface. Gentle is the important word - no harder than you would scrape your face. If you start scraping aggressively you will leave small cut marks in the surface. After you have scraped to the baby butt stage gently abrade the surface with 320 dry paper or a gray ScotchBrite. Clean off the surface. Now, leave the area for two hours and change your clothes. Apply your last coat with a bit more care than the previous coats and walk away.

    An anal person is going to have a tough time with this process. Missed spots have to be ignored. Wet wipe, don't flood. Scraping to babies butt smooth means scraping no harder than scraping a babies butt. Ignoring any of these will leave marks that are tough to get out. Getting these marks out requires some aggressive sanding to flatten out the surface and starting over.

    Jim Kull

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    Thank you very much. The one thing that really changed what I knew is that the quick wipe is not supposed to be flooded on.
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