A 5hp shaper popped up on craigslist the other day. Anybody have experience with these? Quality piece of equipment, or not?
A 5hp shaper popped up on craigslist the other day. Anybody have experience with these? Quality piece of equipment, or not?
A popular machine for relatively light use (cabinet door scale). Have a look at the current thread entitled "shaper"- the Powermatic build is compared to various heavier machines within a larger discussion.
You might want to check with the owwm.org guys. The houdaille period was not the high point of PM history. Some machines didn't change, others did. Dave
Is this an SAC under the houdaille label? Or a USA made PM 27? The SAC's with the houdaille label were built like the three little pigs third outhouse, the PM27's were PM'27's. Ive used a few pieces of the Houdaille era PM badged italian stuff, not high tech but solid and accurate. They made a few different models, 70's and 90's IIR? I'm talking quill assembly like a dump truck. Never seen one with a 5HP motor though....I'm thinking they started at 7.5HP? Pics?
"A good miter set up is like yoga pants: it makes everyone's butts look good." Prashun Patel
I don't know much about these, like nothing. Never seen one, or used one. It's definitely not a model 27. Here's the listing on the machine. Looks like it's stout, but I don't know.
Long term I've no use for the sliding table, and likely not the cutters either, but maybe.
I've got two 27's. One is a 27S, used pretty heavily for virtually everything, I do all my sticking on it, both the profile and sizing. Sizing for face frame material, and panel raising. The other is a dedicated coper. I'd use this one for strictly panel raising I think.
this has nothing to do with shaper but when I see houdaille all I can think of is the old robin hood with the animals. does any else remember I am not sure how it would be spelled but houdaille comes close
The shaper in the ad is one of the Italian-made ones from Sueri that Peter Quinn described above. Looks clean. For $1,500 I'd jump on it.
That is an SAC with the powermatic brand, I used one for years, two actually, that size and the big brother. That one is more the equivalent of an SCMI T110 or almost T120, much more robust than a PM 27, hoods were decent if true, though the backs were open, you have to make a plywood hood to go inside for chip collection, listing indicates the owner has done that. Worth a look if you want to get into an older Italian production machine. The ones I used were the old gold color that came just after the green.
"A good miter set up is like yoga pants: it makes everyone's butts look good." Prashun Patel
SAC made good stuff. i agree it is worth a look. Dave
I might have waited to long to contact the guy. He's got somebody coming this afternoon to look at it. If it's still available, and in decent shape I'll likely snap it up. Though I have no idea where I'm going to put it, or find the juice to run it.
If you ever put up a building, don't bother running 208v, you run out of amperage way too quickly.
Ya, I'm on my way over to pick it up tomorrow, thanks for the heads up!
Larry
Just screw'in wit ya...... If you don't snag that at that price you are crazy. Sell off all the stuff you don't want and it's almost free.
Yep... I think I was too late. He said he'd get back to me, and hasn't. So I'm guessing it sold. Who knows, I might hear from him yet, and if not, something else will come up. I need to be quicker on my decision making when it comes to this stuff. I was bidding on a 25hp dust collector a few weeks ago in Ohio. Went for $4050, they're almost $15k new. I should've kept bidding.
I have a ten horse cyclone and baghouse in the barn I may not be using I might sell reasonably. I'll have to think about it a bit. I may just blow outside.
I figure I need about 8000cfm just to get back on top of what I've already got. That likely puts me around 25hp without a cyclone, more like 30hp with a cyclone I'd bet.
I can't believe what they get for an airlock at the bottom of a cyclone or baghouse either. Just insane.