Well I was reading here a little while ago about some turners using a video camera to hollow vessels instead of a laser so I thought I would try it. I had a small video camera from a project so I made a holder for the end of my laser holder and installed it. Hooked it up to a small tv. I taped a plastic sheet to the tv screen and used a small white board marker to draw the tool on the sheet. Tried it out tonight hollowing out a vessel and I like how it works! Might just have to retire the laser!