Makers Mark

[george wilson]

Frankly,I have wondered how the 18th. C. plane makers managed to make such DEEP intaglio stamps on the front ends of their planes,without breaking the wood into the escapements. I have seen many really deep stampings on those old planes.

It has been suggested that they soaked the front ends of their planes in water first. But,I never saw any evidence of water marking-unless the surfaces were subsequently planed off.

Perhaps the planes were stamped before the escapements were cut? Then,they could have whacked the stamps as hard as they wished to drive them into the wood like that.

Any response to my wanderings?

Derek: perhaps I should tell you the exact font my stamps use? Then you could copy them more accurately.

[Derek Cohen]

Derek: perhaps I should tell you the exact font my stamps use? Then you could copy them more accurately.

George, if you shared this with Chris V, then I may pry it out of him when he comes to stay in 2 weeks time.

Actually, I do intend to build a mitre saw for a MF 115 that I am restoring, and the handle for this saw will be based on your tenon saw handle. I could sign it with your name and no one would be the wiser



Regards from Perth

Derek

[Christian Thompson]

Frankly,I have wondered how the 18th. C. plane makers managed to make such DEEP intaglio stamps on the front ends of their planes,without breaking the wood into the escapements. I have seen many really deep stampings on those old planes.

It has been suggested that they soaked the front ends of their planes in water first. But,I never saw any evidence of water marking-unless the surfaces were subsequently planed off.

Perhaps the planes were stamped before the escapements were cut? Then,they could have whacked the stamps as hard as they wished to drive them into the wood like that.

Any response to my wanderings?

Derek: perhaps I should tell you the exact font my stamps use? Then you could copy them more accurately.

I just finished watching the Bill Anderson planemaking video and he soaks the toe in denatured alcohol before stamping. Maybe the 18th century guys did something similar.

[george wilson]

Don't be ridiculous. They didn't have denatured alcohol in the 18th. C.!!!

Derek,send it here and I'll stamp it for you!! I'm sure your workmanship would be just fine. But,Millers Falls tools always looked rather boring,at least for the most part.

[Stewie Simpson]

Hi George. The stamp was tested on 1.2mm brass over a hardened steel bed. It will be interesting to see if less pressure is required on 1/4" gauge brass back.

Stewie;

[Christian Thompson]

Don't be ridiculous. They didn't have denatured alcohol in the 18th. C.!!!

Derek,send it here and I'll stamp it for you!! I'm sure your workmanship would be just fine. But,Millers Falls tools always looked rather boring,at least for the most part.

Well... they had alcohol!

[Brian Holcombe]

Frankly,I have wondered how the 18th. C. plane makers managed to make such DEEP intaglio stamps on the front ends of their planes,without breaking the wood into the escapements. I have seen many really deep stampings on those old planes.

It has been suggested that they soaked the front ends of their planes in water first. But,I never saw any evidence of water marking-unless the surfaces were subsequently planed off.

Perhaps the planes were stamped before the escapements were cut? Then,they could have whacked the stamps as hard as they wished to drive them into the wood like that.

Any response to my wanderings?

Derek: perhaps I should tell you the exact font my stamps use? Then you could copy them more accurately.

George, there is a video of the dai maker Tanaka making plane bodies, and if I recall correctly, he stamped them prior to cutting them.

[george wilson]

Probably got the alcohol from Geo. Washington's distillery!! Was that single malt or double malt?

[Michael Ray Smith]

THIS is a Maker's Mark:
Attachment 317940

That's what I thought this thread was going to be about. Imagine my disappointment.

[Matt Lau]

That's what I thought this thread was going to be about. Imagine my disappointment.

Me too! +10

[Stewie Simpson]

Me too! +10

In the end, neither Scotch nor Bourbon prevail in this centuries-old spirit battle. The real winner is you. And the loser is the cab driver that had to clean up your puke.

[Steve Voigt]

Frankly,I have wondered how the 18th. C. plane makers managed to make such DEEP intaglio stamps on the front ends of their planes,without breaking the wood into the escapements. I have seen many really deep stampings on those old planes.

It has been suggested that they soaked the front ends of their planes in water first. But,I never saw any evidence of water marking-unless the surfaces were subsequently planed off.

Perhaps the planes were stamped before the escapements were cut? Then,they could have whacked the stamps as hard as they wished to drive them into the wood like that.

Any response to my wanderings?

George, I don't know how they did it back then. One of those things that is probably lost knowledge at this point.

I have seriously considered getting a cheapo 1 ton press and just pressing the stamp in. Though, I'd have to figure out how to cut the front 4 inches off the base, so I could mount it at the front of a bench and get a long plane under it. Would need some kind of adjustable height fixture, too…this is getting complicated.

[Steve Voigt]

Oh, and Stewie, that is a nice looking stamp. Higher quality than the one I got, I think.

[Stewie Simpson]

[Mike Schnorr]

Makers Mark in Wood?
MMark1.jpg

Couldn't resist!

Mike