I Don't Need No Stinkin End Vise

[Robert Engel]

I'll be building my "last" workbench this year I was pretty set on the Scandinavian style (Klausz) with shoulder vice and traditional end vise......BUT

rather than get hung up on tradition, now I'm leaning toward a Roubo style with wagon vise and knee vise.

But "don't need no stinking vice" on a ww'ing bench?

I've tried planing boards 2"X50" with nothing but a stop block -> I'd rather have it secured firmly.

To each his own.

I get what you're saying but I wouldn't recommend a newB ww'er thinking he doesn't need a vice on his workbench.

[Bob Glenn]

Bob,

Busted....I guess I need to put one of my old slide rules on the bench for Neander photo ops. At my age I need something, "Let's see half of 10mm is? Oh heck where is the calculator".

Come on, Ken, Dividers..........dividers and a sector. Bob

[Allan Speers]

Here is a link to a you tube video I made showing workholding without any vise. It covers a lot of options that are useful whether or not you have a vise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvhn-PAfEW4

Mike, this video just blew my mind!

I especially like your point about how not having the stock locked tight, you get feedback as you work.

I was just going to rebuild my tail vise, but I've got some thinking / decisions to make now.

Also, where are plans to make those cool little recessed stops?

[ken hatch]

I'll be building my "last" workbench this year I was pretty set on the Scandinavian style (Klausz) with shoulder vice and traditional end vise......BUT

rather than get hung up on tradition, now I'm leaning toward a Roubo style with wagon vise and knee vise.

But "don't need no stinking vice" on a ww'ing bench?

I've tried planing boards 2"X50" with nothing but a stop block -> I'd rather have it secured firmly.

To each his own.

I get what you're saying but I wouldn't recommend a newB ww'er thinking he doesn't need a vice on his workbench.

Robert,

Did you use a doe's foot on the when planing the 50mm X1250mm boards?

I hear you, every one works differently....The main thing is to work.

ken

[ken hatch]

Come on, Ken, Dividers..........dividers and a sector. Bob

Bob,

Not just busted but double busted

[Mike Siemsen]

Matthew,
Most students get along fine with this type of bench. It is easy to add a face vise either a leg vise or a regular woodworking vise. Plan ahead if you use the metal bench vise so you don't have cross bearers in the way when you attach the vise. I find a tail vise isn't needed. I am working on an article for Pop wood on an inexpensive leg vise. that is probably a few months out yet.

[Mike Siemsen]

The stop is just a piece of 1/4 x 3/4 x 1 steel cut at an angle and screwed to the top of a dowel with a stout long screw. I have since come up with an improved version using an elevator bolt. it eliminates the screw and is stronger, it just takes a bit of grinding.

[Peter Aeschliman]

Mike, thanks for your video. It really changed my perspective as I'm in the early phases of designing a workbench.