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    Grinder Tool Rests?

    I think I've had it with the grinder tool rests that came with my grinder. They are uneven, not square, and basically junk. So I've about convinced myself to move to some sort of aftermarket. I know Derek has a tormak setup on his dry grinder. What to other folks use? I've done a quick search and cannot seem to find some threads I seem to vaguely remember.

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    Wow, it doesn't seem like it has been over two years since making this:

    Tool Rest.jpg

    For commercial after market tool rests you might look through the Turner's Forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Ranck View Post
    I think I've had it with the grinder tool rests that came with my grinder. They are uneven, not square, and basically junk. So I've about convinced myself to move to some sort of aftermarket. I know Derek has a tormak setup on his dry grinder. What to other folks use? I've done a quick search and cannot seem to find some threads I seem to vaguely remember.
    I use Veritas rests on just about everything now, though I have one wheel set up with both a Veritas test and the Tormek grinder HW. The Tormek rod tucks under the tool rest when not in use.

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    I believe the thread you remember came in the one where Derrick describes his Tormek setup (or latter discuses it again). I seem to remember several folks responding that the Veritas one works well for them, others using a Wolverine rest and, finally, a couple using something else with a brand name starting perhaps with an "S" (?) Someone's last name I believe. As Jim said, I believe this info mostly came from the turning guys.
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    Did an SMC search > grinder tool rests < that even showed up the one I couldn't find earlier:

    http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthre...Made-Tool-Rest

    If you use Dr. Google > grinder tool rest site:www.sawmillcreek.org <

    There is a lot to see.

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    I like my Stuart Batty (SB) designed tool rest. The SB rests are designed for turners. It seems to me that turners have been ahead of "flat" woodworkers, in terms of using grinding equipment, due to their constant need to sharpen harder steels. When I bought my rest it was a hard decision for me as it was starting to look like these rests might not be manufactured in the future. Apparently whatever issues stood in the way of making more of these rests they have been resolved. Woodworkers Emporium stocks several different models and parts. One part may be of particular interest, for $25, one can obtain an adapter for the Oneway Wolverine system allowing the SB rest to be fitted to it. I have the rest with the rounded outside edge which I find helpful for grinding curved shapes. I see they offer a rest with a slide in it and options regarding the notch in the wheel : 1" (for stones) or 2" ( for CBN wheels). So they are continuing to offer more and better parts for these rests.

    These are very sturdy rests that are easily set at accurate angles with the SB Angle Gauge. The Tormek rest offers lots of jigs to go with it which are not available, yet, for the SB rest. I have not found a need for the additional jigs yet though. The SB rest seems to me to offer more utility with the one product and no jigs. The Tormek bar, just being a bar, seems to require the use of jigs. Although the SB rest is not cheap I think it is a good value, sturdier than the LV offering or the Tormek. I think it is a good option for "flat" & green wood woodworkers.
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    Another vote for the Veritas, I love mine.

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    Veritas for me too. You might be surprised how stiff, and rigid it is. It does not budge, and is easy to adjust. I use the Batty gauges to set it by.

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    I am currently using the Veritas rest on the second wheel on my grinder. As mentioned above it is a viable, solid option. The issue I have with it is once I removed enough material so a CBN wheel would fit in it, I was left with a relatively small rest compared to the SB. I bought the LV offering largely for the sliding table that comes with it, thinking it would help sharpen plane blades. Thus far, I prefer guiding plane blades over the wheels by hand. I was surprised at the accuracy I could achieve by hand without any sort of jig. If I can minimize parts/jigs/adjustments and do it by hand/feel I usually prefer that option.

    There is also a rest made by Robo Hippy, who posts on these forms fairly often (typically the turners forum), which quite a few people like. A search on the turners forum should turn Robo & his rest up.

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    I have the Veritas grinder rest but found it frustrating, so I came up with this so I could use all my Tormek jigs. It's just replaces the original table. It works great, on the tools that need a lot of work it goes fast with the hand grinder then goes right over to the Tormek for finishing.



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    Nice Jim! I tried buying a used hand grinder. Unfortunately the one I got turned out to have a weird arbor I could not get wheels for. I have been thinking of revisiting that idea. Talk about your variable speed grinder! I was wondering about mounting a CBN wheel on one, wondering if anyone had tried that yet? Very innovative Jim.

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    I tried buying a used hand grinder. Unfortunately the one I got turned out to have a weird arbor I could not get wheels for. I have been thinking of revisiting that idea.
    It should be possible to get a bushing or adaptor to fit snugly between the arbor and the wheel. It is a common solution to arbor and wheel mismatches.

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    I did this video for a couple people in our woodworking club. For me, it's inexpensive, effective and very fast. I guess it could be applied to a hand grinder but it would make it a much longer operation.

    http://vid111.photobucket.com/albums...pse6a3bd46.mp4
    Last edited by Don Dorn; 01-24-2016 at 12:39 PM.

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    Now that's a nifty jig and method. Thanks for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Dorn View Post
    I did this video for a couple people in our woodworking club. For me, it's inexpensive, effective and very fast. I guess it could be applied to a hand grinder but it would make it a much longer operation.

    http://vid111.photobucket.com/albums...pse6a3bd46.mp4
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    Very nice - thanks for posting this

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