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    Rowmark Terminates Distribution Arrangement with JDS Industries

    Rowmark Terminates Distribution Arrangement with JDS Industries

    JDS was informed this week by Rowmark via E-mail that they are terminating our distribution arrangement that goes back over 25 years. JDS will no longer be able to purchase any of the Rowmark products that we currently distribute. We have been one of the largest Rowmark distributors for many years, and have been proud to be able to offer those products to you. I am saddened that we will no longer be able to offer this line to you. The product lines effected include: All Rowmark and IPI plastic sheet stock, Rowmark Aluminum sign frames, Rowmark Stand-off’s and mounting fixtures, Lasermags, Mates, Spectrum Lights, and the Rowmark Hardwood Collection. JDS does have a large current inventory that will be available for sale while supplies last.

    Rowmark was acquired by a Venture Capital company a few years ago, and since then has been buying other companies to consolidate their position in the plastic sheet stock market. At this time, the group also owns IPI Plastics, Johnson’s Plastics, Burlane Plastics and Laserbits. I strongly feel that consolidating too much of any market into one controlling company does not promote a healthy market and choice of supply to the industry. This is why JDS Industries chose to add the Gemini line of plastics to our offerings for you about 6 months ago.

    Gemini is a high quality, family owned company that previously focused primarily on the signage industry. A couple of years ago, they added the state of the art equipment that they needed to begin manufacturing their own line of engravable plastic. They use the newest and best equipment in a clean room environment to ensure the highest quality in their products. When we started testing their products, we were very impressed with the consistent quality and also the value of what they were offering. I felt that this would be a line that our customers would have a strong interest in, benefiting from both the high quality, and the lower prices. The Gemini DUETS products that we offer have an average savings of 20% to 30% over similar Rowmark items. We have had a strong response to this new line in the last 6 months with many customers telling us how much cleaner it lasers which means less clean-up for them.

    We also added a product line of thin flexible plastic engraving material we call JDSFLEX. This line is similar to Rowmark Flexibrass, but at a savings of 40% or more on the most popular colors. This line has taken off very fast as so many customers are using this material to laser trophy plates as well as other uses. We also have a new line coming soon to be called JDS Ultra Thins which will be an even thinner alternative at even lower price points. We hope to have this new line available to sell by the end of July. We have several other plastic engraving products we are working on that you will see in the next few months as well. Our goal is to give our customers great quality products at the best price points possible.

    Although we are unhappy that Rowmark has taken away our ability to offer their products once our inventories are depleted, we are very excited by the new offerings we will be bringing to the market. I feel that it is very important for our customers to have options to choose from in any market, and plastic engraving material is no exception.

    JDS Industries started as a retail trophy store in Sioux Falls, SD. In the last 30 years we have grown to become the largest wholesaler of Awards and Personalization products in the world. We remain committed to the principles that allowed us to grow such as offering the best customer service, availability of inventory, and a wide variety of products to our customers. We will continue to bring you the best, most innovative products from around the world that we feel will benefit your company.

    Thank you for your business.
    Well, looks like I have to start using more Duets, which I've had mixed results with....
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    Unfortunate and strange, I just got samples of both last month for a project and they said nothing, must have come out of the blue for JDS. JDS was also pushing the row mark product instead of the Duets at the NBM show a couple months ago.

    Can you share the issues you've had with Duets?
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    As I posted on the Engraving Etc. forum:
    Fortunately, this doesn't directly impact me as I buy all of my Rowmark from the local MultiCraft Plastics. Hopefully that won't change... If it does, it's unlikely that I'll continue with Rowmark as JDS has a warehouse that gets to me next day by UPS ground, and Johnson is nowhere near that close. Not that I'm a big player, but Rowmark/Johnson would lose me completely at that point.

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    I will continue to support Johnson's Plastics, they have been my engraving plastics supplier for many years and they are a major advertiser here.
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    I would like to start purchasing from JDS again but their shipping was at times more than the product I ordered ..
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    I have the same shipping issue with JDS but fortunately, they are just a short drive for me. They are my major supplier but like Keith, I buy plastic from Johnson. I use IPI almost exclusively and they have a large selection and in the thicknesses I need.
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    Thankfully Delvies is like 6 miles from me. Their prices compared to ANY online is less than anyone to start with, and no shipping costs. Probably saves me $2000 - $3000 a year. I hope Rowmark doesn't cut THEM off...

    I remember when I used to order directly FROM Rowmark. Those days are gone...
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    Everyone does what's best for them. I happen to be local to JDS and go to the warehouse ~3 times a week. If they don't have it in stock, it's shipped to me at a drastically reduced cost because I'm a will call customer. When it's shipped, it's rare that it takes more than 2 days. It's close to an ideal situation.

    I think this is going to hurt Rowmark overall. This thread clearly shows that distribution ranks very high on most people's list and considering this move cuts their distributions way down, I can't see how this move helps their company. Then again, I don't know what future moves they have in mind so maybe they're going to expand and find new partnerships.
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    Kev,

    Unless Delvies drops Gemini line they will be excluded by Rowmark just like all others have been already. Stay tuned for notice.
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  10. Wow, you guys are lucky to live close to warehouse/distribution centers. The closest for me was Zak Plastics but that was sold to Johnson Plastics which Rowmark now owns. I pay a lot in s/h not just from JDS but also Tropar and even JP and Marco. It used to be that a 12x24 box would cost around $15 last year and now it's about $20. Anyway, I am totally against Rowmark's plan to dominate the market. It angers me because the more competition they cut out of the picture then they can charge whatever they feel like. Their products aren't that great, I will be ordering Duets from now on.
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    Johnson/Rowmark/Laserbits probably owed JDS the courtesy of a phone call instead of an email after 25 years.

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    Fortunately, I stopped buying Rowmark and IPI products a while back. I buy all of my plastics from a company in South(I think) Carolina which manufactures its own line of laserables.
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    Trying to be the biggest...

    Up until 2 or 3 years ago, I used to get all our trophy metal and parts at Rocky Mountain Awards. Just drive there, tell them what you need, go back to work. Or we could go in back and see all the treasures. Then Marco bought the place. And now there's no 'walking in', I have to make an 800-phone call and order what I want. And who knows what's stored in back now, could be a casino for all anyone knows...
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    The fact that JDS can't calculate shipping at checkout is a big negative for me. I'd rather pay a little bit more, and have a better understanding of the impact on cash flow than get a random charge for shipping at a later date.

    I spent most of my career building websites, and calculated shipping on check out incredibly easy to implement. No idea why JDS doesn't do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Lenkic View Post
    Kev,

    Unless Delvies drops Gemini line they will be excluded by Rowmark just like all others have been already. Stay tuned for notice.
    Delvies doesn't even sell enough IPI to keep IT in stock, let alone Gemini, they're 'middleman' sales, so I doubt they'll have any issues with dropping Gemini if it comes to that.

    But why should it?
    United States antitrust law is a collection of federal and state government laws
    that regulates the conduct and organization of business corporations, generally to
    promote fair competition for the benefit of consumers.
    Fair competition? This reminds me of a friend of mine who opened a SCUBA dive shop. He was put out of business by a couple of shops down the street who'd been in business a few years; they told their 2 major suppliers that if they sold anything to my friend, THEY would stop buying from them. So these suppliers refused to sell my friend anything. Straight out blackmail since (as I understand it) the 2 major suppliers are about all there is unless you're willing to buy and resell cheap crap. Since they (and my friend) wouldn't buy cheap stuff, it was a total bluff...

    for Rowmark to refuse to sells supplies to JDS simply because they also buy and sell another company's products is NOT indicative of 'fair competition'...
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    THREE- make that FOUR now - fiber lasers
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