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    Engraving Hash Marks??

    I have novice skills with my machine and mostly focus on straightforward work. I was asked to engrave the logo for the Portland Trailblazers onto a bartop and I downloaded a black and white jpg of the logo and converted it to an svg. Here is the jpg blazers logo black and white no letters.jpg

    I have a sinjoe 150watt laser with an Awc708c Plus controller. The image loaded up just fine and I set it to engrave and it looked like that is what it was doing when I did a test run with the laser off. When I tested with the laser on the machine was rastering but instead of tight, contiguous engraving I was getting 2-3 mm separation between each rastering movement so that the logo would end up looking like a series of dash marks. I have never seen this before, anyone know what could be going on?
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    A picture might help. The first thing that comes to mind is the "interval" or "scan gap." That determines how far the gantry moves on the Y axis with each pass. Kinda sounds like yours is set to a very large value. (0.1mm is pretty close to 300 DPI as I recall and what I most commonly use.)
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    From memory there is a setting to produce dashed lines on the 708C, Im not near one of mine or I would check for you but have a dig round in the software
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    so which of these most resembles what you're seeing?

    dashed.jpg

    If the one on the right, could be a simple gap setting error...

    if the one on the left, could be one of your programs is creating a dashed output...
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    Of topic but are we not allowed to upload files like AI files?
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    at the bottom right of this reply box is the 'go advanced' button, click that, then under the 'manage attachment' button is the list of allowed files- I don't see AI on the list...
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    More like the one on the right. 20160825_091713.jpg
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    That looks like a simple gap/scan interval setting-- just guessing, it looks to be maybe .5mm when normal would be .05--

    FWIW, my software does NOT like entering .05 as '.05', wants a ZERO before the decimal first! I must enter '0.05' or will ignore the decimal point entirely, leaving me a 5mm gap instead!
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    Ok. I do not recall playing around with the settings but I did loan use to a friend. Do you know where the setting control is? The dashed line effect is progressive. The larger I scale the design on the machine the more space there is between dashes. I am trying to attach pics here but it isn't working. Basically, when the design is scaled down enough it is engraved fully without the appearances of dashes. As I scale it up more and more it is composed of dashes that are spaced further and further apart respectively. A moderate size model has 1mm space and a large model might have 2, for example.
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    Laser cut 5.3
    JCUT 25S 4.5kW (6hp) water cooled, dual spindles, 1300X2500x300(z) or approx 4'x8'x12" table
    DSP controller
    20" powermatic planer
    18" Jet Bandsaw

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    What software is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel coyle View Post
    I have novice skills with my machine and mostly focus on straightforward work. I was asked to engrave the logo for the Portland Trailblazers onto a bartop and I downloaded a black and white jpg of the logo and converted it to an svg. Here is the jpg blazers logo black and white no letters.jpg

    I have a sinjoe 150watt laser with an Awc708c Plus controller. The image loaded up just fine and I set it to engrave and it looked like that is what it was doing when I did a test run with the laser off. When I tested with the laser on the machine was rastering but instead of tight, contiguous engraving I was getting 2-3 mm separation between each rastering movement so that the logo would end up looking like a series of dash marks. I have never seen this before, anyone know what could be going on?
    Not sure if it has anything to do with your issues here, but that is a really low quality jpeg to be using for a large engraving. It's already got some rough edges at less than 300 pixels height.

    I usually engrave wood at 300-600 pixels per inch. So that means the graphic you are starting with is originally sized at less than 1 inch. If you're good with a graphics package you might be able to enlarge it and clean up the results. But if you're just blowing it up in the laser software, you're probably getting a pretty bad image to start with.

    Just my $.02. Sorry if you're already handled this aspect of it, but you did say you were a novice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joseph shawa View Post
    What software is that?
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    DSP controller
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    Well, that could be it. I used a conversion program to put it into the correct file type .svg from a .jpg. Its always worked out but I can definitely try again. no offense taken at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Downing View Post
    Not sure if it has anything to do with your issues here, but that is a really low quality jpeg to be using for a large engraving. It's already got some rough edges at less than 300 pixels height.

    I usually engrave wood at 300-600 pixels per inch. So that means the graphic you are starting with is originally sized at less than 1 inch. If you're good with a graphics package you might be able to enlarge it and clean up the results. But if you're just blowing it up in the laser software, you're probably getting a pretty bad image to start with.

    Just my $.02. Sorry if you're already handled this aspect of it, but you did say you were a novice!
    100 Watt Laserworld TH 9060 pass through CO2 laser (220 volt)
    Laser cut 5.3
    JCUT 25S 4.5kW (6hp) water cooled, dual spindles, 1300X2500x300(z) or approx 4'x8'x12" table
    DSP controller
    20" powermatic planer
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel coyle View Post
    Well, that could be it. I used a conversion program to put it into the correct file type .svg from a .jpg. Its always worked out but I can definitely try again. no offense taken at all.
    Try converting this larger image.logo.jpg

    Edit: Click on it, then right click to save. Otherwise you're still getting a small version the forum software has created as a thumbnail.
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    Thanks Keith, I had to take a break from this project but am back on it now. I think that is what the problem was. I was massively scaling up, enlarging, a low quality jpeg. At small scaling it came out fine but I saw that as I scaled it up more and more hash marks became apparent and then the space between the hashes got bigger and bigger. Will let you know how this works.
    100 Watt Laserworld TH 9060 pass through CO2 laser (220 volt)
    Laser cut 5.3
    JCUT 25S 4.5kW (6hp) water cooled, dual spindles, 1300X2500x300(z) or approx 4'x8'x12" table
    DSP controller
    20" powermatic planer
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