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    Work Holding - Thin Panels for Smoothing?

    I was working yesterday on tuning up my band saw in preparation for some frame and panel stuff I'll be building soon. I don't have a belt or drum sander and the panels are right on the edge of what is safe to send through my planer. I decided to try leveling them with my freshly sharpened Veritas #4. It worked well, except for actually holding it solid. I tried clamping it in between a dog and my end vise. The panel was so thin (1/4") though, it was tough to get a grip on it. If I tightened it too much, it would flex up in a slight curve.

    What's the proper way to hold a thin panel for planing? I thought about a batten clamped across the bench, but it would have to be thinner than the panel.

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    I don't know if it is the "proper" way, but your idea of using a thin piece of stock as a stop is what I do. If I need to thin a strip of something (like a batten to use for a stop), I sometimes clamp one end, and plane away from the clamp with a block plane, then flip it around and even up the end I had clamped, or you can just cut it off if your piece is long enough.

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    "A hen is only an egg's way of making another egg".


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    Thin stop + doublestick tape! (That's how they did it in the 17th century, according to my sources. )

    Glenn: I love the screw-in-the-bench-dog idea; somehow I never want to put a screw right in my benchtop, and this is a nice work around.
    Last edited by John Crawford; 10-02-2016 at 12:01 PM.

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    Double dog rows in my bench and the tail vise allow me to work panels as you describe with no trouble. If you don't have a second row of dogs simply clamp a , 1/4" batten across your bench to trap the panel between the tail vise and the batten.

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    If you have the time and space create a jig. I did not.... I used double sided tape and release it with alcohol.

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    I use a scrap of 3/16 or so plywood they sell as underlayment in Home Depot. Usually I just but the scrap against something, sometimes I clamp it down. Never have had a need for a tape, but I do not do this often. Panel does not have to be that precise anyways as long as the edges fit in the groove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Lester View Post
    I was working yesterday on tuning up my band saw in preparation for some frame and panel stuff I'll be building soon. I don't have a belt or drum sander and the panels are right on the edge of what is safe to send through my planer. I decided to try leveling them with my freshly sharpened Veritas #4. It worked well, except for actually holding it solid. I tried clamping it in between a dog and my end vise. The panel was so thin (1/4") though, it was tough to get a grip on it. If I tightened it too much, it would flex up in a slight curve.

    What's the proper way to hold a thin panel for planing? I thought about a batten clamped across the bench, but it would have to be thinner than the panel.
    If you are just smoothing it down, place the panel on something non-slip, or use clamps at the near end. Then work with scrapers.



    This 1/4" thick panel was heavy enough to stay put.

    Regards from Perth

    Derek

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    Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm getting ready to make some new dogs and may have to try the screw idea!

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    I dislike planing INTO a stop when stock is thin. I prefer to clamp one end or one side, and plane away from the clamp. There's usually a way to do it so you never have to go against the grain.

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    I plane thin stock against a planing stop. Mine is about 1/4" thick screwed to a thick block I clamp in my vice. I rarely find I need to plane stock thinner than my stop. If I did, I suspect I would just make a thinner one, but I doubt you could make one thinner than 3/16", and have it be strong enough.
    Paul

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    Make a couple of doe's toe's or deer toe's and clamp them to opposing corners. Use material the same or lessor thickness of the piece you are trying to smooth.

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    There called doe's feet sorry here is a link to Schwarz: http://www.popularwoodworking.com/wo...-traction-foot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Hart View Post
    There called doe's feet sorry here is a link to Schwarz: http://www.popularwoodworking.com/wo...-traction-foot
    First I've heard of those, I'll have to make some.

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    Nice idea Glenn. Thanks!

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