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    Quality of cuts with a track saw

    I am thinking about buying a track saw but I am wondering how good (meaning clean) the cuts are. Currently I am using a shop made guide that is made from a piece of Oak and some hardboard. It works fine as long as I make two cuts. One scoring cut no more that about 1/16" deep, and then lower the blade to a depth that will cut through and make a second pass. If I don't make the scoring cut, the top edge of the plywood is essentially shredded when cutting across the grain on the top layer. Also, dust collection on my circular saw is non-existent so it makes a huge mess.

    I've watched a few videos and it APPEARS that you make a single deep pass and get perfect cuts top and bottom. Is this correct???? It would be great to mark the location, clamp the saw tracks, and cut. WITH DUST COLLECTION too.


    Thanks,

    Wayne

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    I have the Makita and 55" track. The cuts are perfect. I've used it to cut plywood and finished projects like on an entry door I made. I've even used it to cut a laminate counter top to length for two smaller work stations. The track has a rubber guide that the blade runs right up against that eliminates tear-out and chipping. I've just been using the blade that came with it too.
    Also, unlike other techniques I've used, there is no need to clamp the track. The rubber feet that run the length of the track hold it securely in place.

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    Over the years I have had the Makita, Dewalt and Festool TS75 and still have a Dewalt and Festool. The first thing is blade quality, I found the Festool blades were better than the Makita and Dewalt but Tenryu, Freud and Forrest all make blades as good as Festool that fit all the 160mm saws. In the end I have found that Festool has slight advantage in cut quality on the off cut side, which allows you to use that waste without having to recut the edge. With the same blade the cut on the saw side is essentially the same with all three. I have never used the cheaper saws nor have I used the more expensive (and generally considered better) Mafell. I never felt the need for scoring cuts (as some tracksaws do) or blue tape tricks to get fully acceptable cuts in sheet good from any of the saws when they had a quality blade in them.
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    I have the Makita and think the quality of the cut is very good. However, if I want to use the edge as is without any additional work, I do a score cut first. That is easy as the Makita has a function allowing it.

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    With my Festool, the quality of cut is great.

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    Festool TS75 here, just finishing a project using walnut veneered plywood - absolutely perfect cuts single plunge using the stock Festool blade and their splinter guard. Whereas on my table saw, Forrest Woodworker ii blade I had to make scoring cuts or splinter city...

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    I have the Festool TS55 and it gives a perfect edge. I'm always amazed as how well it cuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Henderson View Post
    I have the Festool TS55 and it gives a perfect edge. I'm always amazed as how well it cuts.

    Mike
    +1 I have the Festool TS55 and the edges are perfect.

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    My Makita makes a better cut than my table saw.

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    Festool TS55 currently with an Oshlun blade. Cross grain cuts in birch plywood (making a lot of cabinets lately) have a little tearout, but not enough that I worry about it, especially for paint grade work. Not perfect results for me, but very good (an order of magnitude better than my old PC saw).

    Guess I need to get my Festool blade resharpened.

    FWIW, it is also possible to damage the clear plastic 'zero insert' guide. Then you need to replace it. Kind of an expensive piece of plastic. Don't ask how I know this....
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    Guess I need to get my Festool blade resharpened
    Yep....don't forget to buy another edge strip also as you mention. The Olshun blades I used in my TS55EQ left the edge strip a teeny tiny bit shy of getting perfect cuts now.

    Prior to that, my Festool 60T blade and new edge strips gave perfect cuts. No tiny chips in Formica or little fuzz splinters in luan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark mcfarlane View Post
    Festool TS55 currently with an Oshlun blade. Cross grain cuts in birch plywood (making a lot of cabinets lately) have a little tearout, but not enough that I worry about it, especially for paint grade work. Not perfect results for me, but very good (an order of magnitude better than my old PC saw).

    Guess I need to get my Festool blade resharpened.

    FWIW, it is also possible to damage the clear plastic 'zero insert' guide. Then you need to replace it. Kind of an expensive piece of plastic. Don't ask how I know this....

    Over the years this is what I have found too, the blade choice is very important. Several years ago I bought a Eureka Zone rail. It has zero clearance strips for the rails and a piece on the saw. I have found that even without the strip on the rail a 40-th Freud Diablo thin kerf blade will give you an excellent crosscut on veneered ply if you push the saw slowly.

    Mike

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    I have the Makita and love it. I when I needed to straiten the edges of 8/4 hard maple (before I had a jointer) I bought a Festool 12-tooth blade for the Makita and it worked like a charm.

    Absolutely zero complaints.

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    Thanks everyone. My budget doesn't allow for the green, but I think I will look into the Makita. I don't really NEED a track saw, but dust collection is getting to be more and more WANTED. My old Craftsman circular saw doesn't have a dust collection option, buy it is REAL good at dust dispersion. Three of four cuts and my entire 3-car garage is coated with chips, and I am in serious need of a shower.

    Wayne

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    TS 55 REQ here and cut quality and dust collection are the biggest factors of why I chose the Festool.
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