Any new reports now that this product is on the market? I would like to get this setup but the various demos at several Rockler stores were not very good. I would like to know of any who took delivery and made this work for them. Thanks.
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Any new reports now that this product is on the market? I would like to get this setup but the various demos at several Rockler stores were not very good. I would like to know of any who took delivery and made this work for them. Thanks.
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While I find this quite clever, I think it's a solution in search of a problem.
How many of you guys are making boxes out of fine veneered plywood ?
And using this for drawer boxes ? Not if you want to use undermount slides - the most popular type for high end cabinets.
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Bingo.Originally Posted by Dave Sabo
But. If you are doing a "cheap" option for drawers, you're better off cutting them on a cnc if you're in the pursuit of profit. That's assuming you have a cnc.
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I think if you'll run the numbers - the "cheapest" option would be to outsource the drawers parts to a specialist co. You assemble them, and there's no inventory to keep track of.
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I had assumed that by now lots of woodworkers had perhaps gotten one because they had a lengthy pre-order window, especially given the wide interest in the product when it was first announced, although it was quite a while back. So that's why I was hoping for a response from actual users. Regarding these last few responses: I think you can also use this with hardwoods, not just the veneer ply example in the video. You can also multiple cut the grooves the other way and make a more traditional drawer with a thin bottom set in a groove. My own intention is to be able to make a batch of stands and/or wall panels.
So, my question still is: Can one use this blade to do so easily, repeatably and consistently? Not just a one-each where you have to mess around endlessly with setup for undercut, overcut, differences in thickness even across a single sheet of ply, wood splintering from the fold, blade accuracy in rip cuts and crosscuts alike etc, etc
I have other ways like the lock miter bit for the router table, etc, but as this is a potential option, I wanted to know it someone in this "vast hoarde of sawdust creators" has gone and done a batch of these boxes one after the other without significant problems.
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That lengthy preorder was probably Rockler saying, "Let's see how many people will shell out this kind of money before we order the first run of these things."
I have no idea how much set up would be involved for each project, but I do know that most of the plywood around here (big box) is pretty inconsistent.
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This is true.
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i suppose you could argue that the cheapest option is to go to ikea and forget buying your own woodworking machines altogether. just being funny by extending the logic to absurd levels...
actually i looked in on this thread again today and wanted to bump it up to the top again since i'm still looking for those who may have bought this blade and used it like i've mentioned above. this thing really did get a huge amount of interest on youtube and elsewhere way back when it was first announced, so very curious if it turned out to be fast, easy, repeatable, consistent, easy to sharpen, easy to make batches of boxes, etc
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Just received the latest WWJ Mag.....they have plans in it for an "Odds & Ends" Cabinet (for the shop). using.....guess what....the Miter Fold Blade... had to chuckle a bit :-)
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I've been wondering if you could make the same type of cuts with a router using a straight bit and a very small v-bit. It would take some trying to get the geometry right, but could that work?
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yes of course it would work, but you would really have to work to set up each part of the cut very accurately in relation to the other subsequent cuts--i suspect lots of time and fuss. much easier to get a lock miter router bit if you're going that way.
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That's terrific--very interested to hear about your results and the ease of your setup!
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Won't be building this..... won't be buying the blade either. I have a SawStop. I just thought some of you might get a charge out of Rockler's "plug" of the blade in their mag. :-)
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I think I've asked this , but no replies so far :
How many of you guys actually make 1/2 boxes out of nice veneer plywood ?
-and- make enough of them to warrant getting this thing ?
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Couple things -
I believe the Miter Fold blade can be used with both hardwood and plywood. In fact, doing a search online there is at least one video out demonstrating the same concept with a simple miter cut on the joints rather than the Miter Fold cut, so I'm sure that the boxes can be made with hardwood also. The remaining "skin" would stretch when folded with hardwood as well as the same thickness of veneer.
While I am not actually interested in buying the Miter Fold since I would not build drawers nor boxes with that type of joint, I am still interested in the final glued up result. I've seen videos on line that show the whole cut process but nothing that shows a close-up of the corner and bottom edge joints after glue up. To date, I've seen 1 demo and the result of another demo that wouldn't give me the desired result.
I assume the reason that no one has responded to the question earlier in this thread is because no one posting has the blade. I'm just interested in the developer being successful because he spent a lot of time and effort developing a unique idea.
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