Condition isn't everything, wait until you see the turds showing up at my shop.
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Condition isn't everything, wait until you see the turds showing up at my shop.
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Chris,Originally Posted by Chris Hachet
We've so gotten away from incorporating design for design's sake in machinery manufacturing, which is a shame -- the Snowflakes are beautiful enough to put in a living room!
My 192 was from the '40s, I think; I bought it used around 1983 from a dealer in Baltimore (Skarie?). Even the doors were cast.
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Sadly had to pass on a really decent 192 to buy the Pm 87 I just acquired. If I add yet another band saw to the shop, it will be between something like the Oliver 18 inch 192 and a MiniMax 16.
Wells and Davis apparently build a really nice band saw, prices for these are all over the place. Right now too busy making sawdust to think of buying another band saw for a good long while.
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I actually like buying machines in "turd" condition so long as they are not badly abused-much easier to deal with that then a quick coat of paint and hide all of the issues.
I like repairing and tuning a machine once.
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Well - Its mine - picked it up last night. Talked him to $800. And yes - pics are coming. One thing I noticed is that the tension spring is very nearly completely compressed. It cut very well with the 3/8" blade on it, but I know I will want to put a 3/4" blade on it in the future. The tires will need replacing, but seem to be serviceable for now. Any thoughts on sourcing a new tension spring? Can I use a tension spring from a newer model PM saw?
Sawdust is some of the best learning material!
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I doubt any current models will have the same spring but the 81/87 may have shared the same spring. My first call would be Redmond Machinery after I verified it was not in stock with Powermatic or any of the online new parts dealers.
Of all the laws Brandolini's may be the most universally true.
Deep thought for the day:
Your bandsaw weighs more when you leave the spring compressed instead of relieving the tension.
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Congrats and pics please. I think you will be very, very happy with it. For me the larger table made a larger band saw kind of a no brainer.
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Here are the pics as promised. IMG_1244.jpgIMG_1247.jpg
Sawdust is some of the best learning material!
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IMG_1247 (Medium).JPGIMG_1244 (Medium).JPGIMG_1246 (Medium).JPGIMG_1249 (Medium).JPGShowing pics of power switch, overall machine, upper and lower guides.
Sawdust is some of the best learning material!
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More pics, lower wheel, foot brake, tension guage, upper wheel, back, and motor area.IMG_1250 (Medium).JPGIMG_1251 (Medium).JPGIMG_1253 (Medium).JPGIMG_1252 (Medium).JPGIMG_1254 (Medium).JPGIMG_1255 (Medium).JPGIMG_1256 (Medium).JPGIMG_1257 (Medium).JPG
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Sawdust is some of the best learning material!
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Need a new tension spring.... notice the one in is all compressed. Only has a 3/8" blade on it.
Sawdust is some of the best learning material!
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He must have not been very smart then
Sawdust is some of the best learning material!
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I would check with OWWM (old Woodworking Machines website.) McMaster-Carr should have things like hand wheels and other supplies.
Fantastic saw, enjoy it....thanks for the pics, I greatly enjoyed them.
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...also, I would not restore or repaint it. I love the patina of age on old woodworking machines, kind of like the patina of age on a nice old pick up truck. Very nice looking machine in every respect.
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Resurrecting an old thread to ask does a Powermatic 87 have a threaded hole in the top to lift it with an eyebolt or is it lifted with a sling under the upper arm? I understand a Doall uses a 3/4 lifting ring on their 1612. Seems like such a nice safe method of rigging.
My lathe uses one 16m eyebolt to lift 1750 pounds at the balance point.
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