Gotcha. I think I mis-understood whatever it was I read. You are correct as per the instructions listed at MuscleChuck's website: LINK
Gotcha. I think I mis-understood whatever it was I read. You are correct as per the instructions listed at MuscleChuck's website: LINK
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Yeah, once that cap screw starts to tighten, there's not much more movement involved. I use about the same amount of force that I would with a regular collet wrench. About 70 to 80 ft. lbs., according to my highly imprecise muscle memory.
I've got Eliminators on two of my routers and like them very much. No problem with balance or getting the router clamped tight. I also have an Eliminator XL for my DW625 which is nice when I want slightly more reach on the Router Boss. I got my Eliminators from the Router Boss folks.
Yesterday I was using a Trend extender in the Eliminator on my DW625 on the Router Boss. It was very nice to have the length and it was perfectly balanced.
I bought MuscleChuck at Rockler , works perfectly. I followed the instruction video, was able to get the runout to 0.002".
http://www.rockler.com/quick-change-...de-musclechuck
I have the Bondhus 4mm ball end tip with t-handle, high quality. It was $6.68 when I bought it.
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Last edited by James Zhu; 05-14-2017 at 11:08 PM.
Think Im gonna give Whiteside a call tomorrow and ask them the story behind all these different brands of what looks to be the same product. Hopefully they can confirm something. I'll post back with whatever I can find out.
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I've been using these for a couple of years now, and keep waiting to hear why they're not a good thing. Other than extending the bit height, I haven't heard or read a thing. I'm a bit surprised we're not seeing them offered on new machines.
Just got off the phone with Whiteside and the gentleman I spoke to there (Todd) said they buy their 9700 from The Eliminator Chuck company and that the MuscleChuck was created by a guy who used to work for The Eliminator Chuck company, broke off and made his own version and changed how the collet screw works a bit. I'm guessing the Magnate Eliminator RC is just one of those two versions.
So that being said I think I'm going to go ahead and go with the Whiteside 9700. I'm a big Whiteside fan anyway so that works for me.
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Well, that's a different story than what I heard, but who knows? FWIW, I'm a big fan of Whiteside myself.
It goes back to when I first heard of the MuscleChuck, in the Router Forums. One of the mods there (maybe the owner?) became acquainted with the guy who invented it. The story was that the inventor's background was in machining parts for racing, nothing to do with the Eliminator company. But, that's not to say that that story was true, or that Tod's story isn't.
Knowing Whiteside's quality, I really doubt they would get behind anything second rate.
As an aside: I mentioned the 4mm Allen wrench I've been using. You mentioned, I think, a 5/32" wrench, which made me wonder about that. Turns out that while a 4mm will work, a 5/32" fits better, less slop. Gracias! (Note that this applies to my MuscleChuck unit; the Whiteside/Eliminator may be different.)
Okay, reading more into this thread that I mentioned earlier, I think I understand the difference better. The Whiteside/Eliminator version has the older design bit retention that looks like this:
Whiteside_Eliminator.jpg
Whereas the MuscleChuck/Magnate SHA0002 looks like this:
MuscleChuck.jpg
Notice the split in the MuscleChuck version? That changes how the unit grips the router bit and is apparently a much stronger design with less likelihood of marring the shank of the router bit.
So I guess Im leaning towards the MuscleChuck now.
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Mine has the split like your second picture.
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As I said before, I've got several of the Eliminator chucks. I've never seen any marring on the shanks of my router bits. I wonder if that's a real problem or not.