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    What do you guys use to manage your websites?

    For my laser cutting business we've been using Squarespace with great results. However, the ecommerce side of it is pretty weak. I've been looking into Shopify. Curious if any of you guys are using it and if so, what your thoughts are.

    Thanks!
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    I use OpenCart.
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    I recently opened a Wix Premium site... not the free one, but one that actually accepts payments, manages stock, inventory, handles shipping calculations, tax etc. allows me to either use their financial institutions or add my own. It allows easy customization of the item... I.e. color, size, text fields for engraving etc. and notifies me immediately if anyone is on my site, for live online assistance... turned that off in a hurry.... got a notification every 5 minutes...

    Took a while to set everything up... had to figure out SKU's for everything... but once I got it all in and done... it was smooth like glass!

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    I second OpenCart. It has it's share of flaws, but it's pretty darn good for a free shopping cart. It helps if you know HTML and PHP so you can modify code to suit your needs.
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    Try Shopify for free and see if you like it - We have three sites with them that generate 3000 + orders per month. We choose Shopify because they offered integration with Amazon, eBay, Etsy. They have a ton of good apps to help build custom features that would have cost us aton to setup our selves.
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    Glad it's you guys have to worry about these interweb things

    A guy back east has been selling some car stuff I make for 17 years, and he's always got some problem going on with shopping cart issues, deadbeat chargebacks, whiny people who don't understand the difference between 'made to order' and an Amazon warehouse, and just plain "the public". I don't envy him or any of you guys one bit. The internet has helped some people find me (which isn't always a good thing), but I've never needed a website to sell anything (which is a GREAT thing!)...

    I have great respect for anyone selling to the public at large, you're braver than me!

    --just wanted to throw that out there, since I have no help to offer!
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    I use Opencart. I looked at all the various open source commerce software options out there and found it to be the easiest and best looking of the lot. I have added a theme which I have done a few subtle changes and have a three or four extensions which have helped get it working as I want. It isn't perfect, but to the customer it comes across as quite professional looking. im still learning though.

    When I was setting up my site, as it's just a micro business, I wanted to keep costs right down. I looked at the various paid options, but felt they wanted too much of my money. I'm paying around £30.00 a year for my domain and hosting. I take PayPal and to cut costs down more customers can now pay by Bank Transfer, which while my Bank offers me free banking means no fees.
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    I use Vend for my point of sale (cash registers, inventory, etc.) and they offer ecommerce as well. I don't personally use the ecommerce feature because I don't sell online, but if I did it would make my life much easier. It automatically syncs things sold in the shop and things sold on the web (e.g. the last item sells in the shop, it doesn't allow that item to be purchased on your web site until you add more to inventory), keeps one customer database instead of two, one product database instead of two, one company to deal with, etc... It also integrates well with many card processors and with quickbooks, which I use for my accounting.

    I think Square probably does the same thing and I'm sure there are several others. May be a little pricey if you don't need POS services (i.e. don't have a physical presence).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Bonenfant View Post
    Try Shopify for free and see if you like it - We have three sites with them that generate 3000 + orders per month. We choose Shopify because they offered integration with Amazon, eBay, Etsy. They have a ton of good apps to help build custom features that would have cost us aton to setup our selves.
    3000 orders a month?! How are you advertising? Facebook, Instagram, newspapers, etc.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob John View Post
    ...How are you advertising?...
    This industry doesn't work that way. They just need to find you on the web when/if they need your services. Advertising is a waste of $.
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    I stopped "advertising" about 18 years ago. Have never spent a dime since. I am home based and don't want retail customers.
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    My favorite is when people cold call and tell me that they see my site isn't doing well in Google Search Results. I listen to them tell me how poorly we are listing and how they can help me. Then I asked them what they searched for that showed us listing so poorly and it goes quiet. I explain that we're number 1 in everything we want to be number 1 in, and the call usually ends abruptly.
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    Web page placing.. including Google can be done without spending a dime. I'm at or near the top - depend on your search for my area. I have a lousy web page and my web store isn't much better. My wife has been on me for nearly 10 years to build a better web page. Fancy is nice, but it isn't likely to make or break a serious sale. I'm so busy just off referrals & my Web page that I routinely turn away customers every day. I should note that unlike Robert, I don't sell much in the way of products. That's not my business model. Instead of products I chose to be a Service company. On other words, I have nearly zero inventory. I just laser and/or cut other peoples products, mostly industrial.

    Oh.. back to Web placement... This IS highly important, just not worth it (to me) to pay for it. My secret for easy placement high on search lists...... wouldn't be a secret if I told.
    Tim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Bateson View Post
    Web page placing.. including Google can be done without spending a dime.
    You don't even need a web page, all you need is a phone number. I've been trying to get Google & Yelp to remove me altogether, but yeah, right. I DO have a 'webpage', but between about 2012 and 2015 my page said nothing but 'out of order, check back later'. Because I thought it would help keep the phone calls and questions to a minimum, now my page is just an explanation of what I do and what I don't do. Doesn't help a bit, nobody reads it. It's obvious most people just call the first few numbers that come up in a search and don't even check the web page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Bateson View Post
    This IS highly important, just not worth it (to me) to pay for it. My secret for easy placement high on search lists...... wouldn't be a secret if I told.
    I'm surprised at how many people think that someone in the same industry and market is going to tell the world how they got their customers and what they are doing. If you told 10 competitors how you got to #1 on the search engines, then you could be #10 and they'd be 1-9. I'm all about helping people, but I'm not too keen on helping people take my customers away from me for free.
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