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Thread: Anyone heard of the Cubiio?

  1. #16
    A typical human being will look at something and if he thinks it's awesome, he will assume everyone else will think it's awesome. And if he can produce this awesome thing himself, glory and riches will be showered upon him.......Problem is, only a fraction of everyone else will barely consider it worth a second look, let alone consider it 'awesome'. And of the tiny fraction of those who may agree that it's awesome, the vast majority of those, gosh darn it, just don't have the money to buy one right now.

    I've seen this scenario occur countless times in my 42 years in this business, but I can count on one hand the success stories. Most common pipe-dream phrase: 'We'll sell millions of 'em!!'... the 'Pet Rock' syndrome

    The other thing that kills me about humans, is that a typical guy will happily spend $1400 a month to pay for his dwelling, $200 a month on the utilities, $500 a month on food, $500 a month for a car and insurance, another $500 a month paying off credit cards that bought other stuff---but just doesn't seem to have the finances to spend more than $1000 to start his own business. Yes it's possible and it's been done, but the odds of success are right up there with the lottery.

    As for this Cubiio- someone should just invent a battery powered mini-gantry setup that holds a small magnifying glass with a tiny solenoid activated shutter that uses the sun for 'laser power'. Probably be just as useful, just as fun, more efficient and less dangerous.
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  2. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Henriksen View Post
    A Shenhui 350 will out-perform a GF any day and those have been around for years. I had one for a while when I just wanted to have a laser for hobby use. Did the job just fine. I think the people that have ordered a GF just fell for the hype and ordered one without having done any research at all about lasers beforehand. They don't know alternatives exist. Just shows what you can acheive with marketing.
    This has been my complaint all the way Mike, telling unsuspecting buyers that by getting that thing they are on the road to being the next Elon Musk..it's like a pyramid scheme, by this and you could make money when in general people won't see *could* and read it as *will*

    The times I have heard "You are just worried I'll take away all your business"

    Not at all, if my some miracle GF manage to break pretty much all the laws of laser physics and build the god of lasers...I'll just buy 50 of them.

    The big problem has been people don't wish to appear foolish so when more let down happen they simply lower their expectations to meet them rather than hold GF to what they were promised
    You did what !

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  4. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill George View Post
    Sad, sad part is I have seen on other Forums people who really need the income planning on using the Glow Forge and now you say this one.... people who say they can only afford the GF who want to start a business. They get hostile when I suggest saving a bit more money and buy something that works.... and it works when you purchase. No dinking around, just make your product and sell.

    Its kind of like if you put Billet into a ad for a product made for a Harley it will sell. So if you say Laser, people want one.... no matter what.
    This is why I posted it. There were multiples of people that are purchasing these with hopes of using them in their business, like the K40 (which is perfectly fine). But as can be plainly seen in this thread, this is not going to end well for those that manage to get their hands on one. Thanks Dave for the detailed response.
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  5. #20
    My guess is these will classified by the FDA as Class IV lasers.

  6. #21
    Looks like Kickstarter smacked Cubiio down pretty hard. They sent them a letter telling them they couldn't release it in the US without the guard and they needed to cancel all orders that fell under the criteria. Then they sent them another letter and told them that on Sept.6, KS would automatically cancel all the US orders for the Basic version.

    Right now, it's at $1.3M in sales. Let's see where that ends up on Sept. 6. Someone posted that 1,700 orders would be cancelled automatically.

    I took a look because I had a customer come in today and bring it up, said they saw it and thought about us, and wondered how dangerous it would be.
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    It is a total SCAM. Do not fall into this.</p>
    Last edited by kauko laurinolli; 12-17-2017 at 10:12 AM.

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