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  1. 10-14-2017, 2:57 PM #1
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    Turned down three handyman planes, this morning....

    Had "Bigger fish to fry" Hand saw for a dollar bill...
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    26" Skew back, 8ppi crosscut that is still wicked SHARP...
    Couple of metal planes..for $4..
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    Millers Falls #900 and an all steel block plane...and a couple of woodies...
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    Just over 9-1/2" long, with 1-5/8" wide irons. Tapered iron have chipbreakers.....neither uses a bolt to connect to the iron. That "adjuster"?
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    Only retracts the iron. No lateral. Iron has a pin that fits into the bolt's head. Other end has a couple of square nuts, that push against a slot in the body.
    $4 for the pair. Logo? Well there is that "eye" at the top, followed by..
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    Goldenberg....Auger Fondu A Garantie
    Both bodies will need a bit of work, to fix a few cracks, one which has a nail in it. One sole is not 90 degrees to the sides...not a biggie. Irons will need a bit of work, grind a straight edge, or leave cambered?
    Logo on the saw..
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    Not too bad of a morning?
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  3. 10-14-2017, 3:42 PM #2
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    Not bad, not bad at all. If I recall correctly, Goldenberg was later absorbed into an international (European) company that included Bahco, Sandvik, and Stanley of England. This plane, though, most likely predates that period.
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    Near as I can tell, by the logo on the iron...1875?

    Was hard to see the "i".....Augier Fondu ( cast steel) Warantie ( warranted)

    Logo has a single eyeball at the top..
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    ACIER FONDU; https://www.holzwerken.de/museum/her...ldenberg.phtml

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    Thank you...it was hard to read on mine..
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    Slot on this one cut up almost the entire logo....other than the single eyeball..
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    Have one with an adjuster, the other one does not. Unable to read the three lines of markings on the toe, as well....

    One has a cambered edge to the iron....scrub plane? Or, just straighten the curves out?

    And, NO, I haven't check the bed angle..either...
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    The following is an Acier Fondu single iron smoothing plane;

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    Afraid both of mine are double iron planes.....
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    Neither use a bolt to hold the two irons together...
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    OK, other than shine the hardware on the saw, that is about all I need to do to it...
    The Shelton Steel block plane..
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    Cleaned up rather nicely, considering I couldn't remove any of the knobs....
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    Not sure how "flat" this sole should be...
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    Seems to work just fine...
    The Millers Falls #900?
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    Tote has been repaired. Maybe at a later date, I'll sand and refinish ( black paint..yuck) the handles...
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    Iron isstamped as a Millers Falls of Greenfield, MASS USA...
    Tried one of the woodies..
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    About as good as I can get it....
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    Ugly? I have a donor Beech body...will cut a chunk out, and make a new body for this plane....this one had too much wrong with it....twists, sole was WAY out of flat, wasn't even close to 90 degrees to the sides... Couple of cracks in the wrong places....and no room for any lateral adjustments...

    Depending on how this turns out, then I'll see about the other woody....stay tuned
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    Stewie, thanks for posting the website.

    https://www.holzwerken.de/sitemap.phtml

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    Those two french woodies are beyond my skill set to rehab.....1875 wood bodies are mainly just worn out. I don't have enough stock to make a new pair of bodies. Might just make these two Shelf-Sitters.....They were only $2 a piece....no biggie....unless someone else want s try their luck ( you'll need a bunch of it..) at rebuilding these two...
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    Saw is a Richardson Bros No. 8. Skew back, 8ppi, filed crosscut. 26" long. That "Extra rivet" at the bottom of the handle is slightly smaller at the heads. Can Make out (barely ) the trade marks on the Maltese Cross,,,,"R" then B E S T around the cross's arms. Still work on a better view of what is left of the etch....$1 saw?

    As a side note: there were two other saws on the tables, A Disston D-8 that had seen way too many sharpenings, and a WS with a D-23 like handle....already had better versions at the shop.
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    Pictures of the cleaned up saw...
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    All cleaned up. WD40 wiped on, to keep the rust-bunnies at bay..
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    Medallion bolt must be in a different time zone....note the bottom "extra rivet" size...
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    Doubt IF I will try to repair the top horn, doesn't seem to bother the hand.
    Will be going in to the saw til, right beside the D-8, and will be a solid user.
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    I gave up on the one plane...would need a whole new body. Haven't the wood, nor the motivation right now for that...

    Decided to try the other woody...
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    Cleaned and sharpened these....chipbreaker needed flattened on this end....big old curve had been beatened into it.
    Sole was flattened....still has "issues"
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    Wedge is a might slick, will need a bit more work..
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    Kind of lopsided, too...
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    Once across a board,I had to readjust the setting, due to this slipping a bit..
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    Still needs work...
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    I do have a bit of Hard Maple left over.....maybe make a new wedge from that? Logo on the chipbreaker is hidden when the plane is assembled....both logos face each other...Haven't found anything about a Somborn & Comp.....

    May try to give the Shelton #18 a paint job.....but I will need to mask the knobs, to do so. Unable to remove any of the three.
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