Well here is the little beast in the flesh. We just rolled in from Denver. After a trip to see the loml's dad in the VA home we then went to the mall and then on to Woodcraft store. So far I have gotten a pen mill, two mandrel's with #2 MT, 2 sets of 7 MM bushings, some CA glue, Micro Mesh, 7 MM brad point bit, a 3 chisel set and finish. The gentleman that helped me was a turner and gave me some HUT Crystal Coat for 1/2 off to try. He said he likes it a lot and then top it with Renisance Wax. He showed me a pen he used that on and it was beautiful. I also got 5 slim line pen kits. He ask me about blanks and I told him I have 5 locust, 5 ash and 5 walnut cut and waiting but just wanted 5 for now. He said thats great. Anyway soooooo much stufffffffff and SWMBO said that is enough to start. I figured I had better not argue since she was paying. Got one of my books yesterday so will be do some reading. Thanks for all the help so far but I can see more question coming down the pike. Ain't that right Bob!