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    Black Lacquer?

    I'm needing to locate some Black Lacquer for this computer desk I'm starting for a guy at work. Is it nothing more than black pigment added to standard clear gloss lacquer?

    I would like to try my hand at spraying one of the new WB lacquers on the market to see if I can deal with that better than the "dawn your gas mask" killer type lacquer that I've been using.

    Mr. Becker??????? Any ideas? Help me learn a little more about Black Lacquer.
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    As far as I know for us woodworkers, clear and white is all thats available off the shelf.
    May have to go automotive stuff to get other colors.
    Or. Paint black then clear coat.
    I did a table a few years back. White water base house paint off the shelf. Two coats lacquer on top.


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    Hi Dennis. Take a trip over the Homestead Finishing, and look at the Mixol pigments. The ad says it will mix with darn near anything including water based finishes.
    Best Regards, Ken

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    I have a full Mixol kit....but I've been far to disappointed with it. I doesn't mix well with shellac or lacquer. My best guess is that it's primarily for tinting paint or another oil based type finish. So far, I've waisted over $50 on a tinting kit that doesn't work on the finishes I needed it for.

    Oh well....chalk one up to experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Clardy
    As far as I know for us woodworkers, clear and white is all thats available off the shelf.
    May have to go automotive stuff to get other colors.
    Or. Paint black then clear coat.
    I did a table a few years back. White water base house paint off the shelf. Two coats lacquer on top.
    Steve,

    But want lacquer cause the paint to wrinkle? I've done this on metal before and a lot of the painted areas wrinkled on me.
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    No. Once its dry. Has to dry good. Light coat of lacquer first coat. Then 1-2 more.
    Another thought. I once had to darken a oak table. Originally used walnut stain, then lacquer. Wasn't darf enough for the customer. I got some darker yet stain, mixed in a sample jar with lacquer, stirred and left overnight to see if it would stay mixed. It did. I then shot a mixture over the top coat. Worked like a champ.
    Just have to make sure it mixes.


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    Dennis, I found out that black lacquer was not available after taking on this job. I made my own by disolving black dye pigments in lacquer thinner then mixing the lacquer thinner in with my sanding sealer and the finish coats. It was NC lacquer not water based like you mention. The dye powder was a WD Lockwood color I got from them as a 1 oz sample color. I sprayed over the table 3-4 times with the black then top coated with clear. Looked pretty good I thought.

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    Target Coatings sells USL in matt black. You put on a few coats and then top coat it with clear in the sheen you want. I used the white matt in my kitchen and it was great. (And there were no fumes to kill me...I cannot stand the smell of NC lacquer)
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    dennis, my paint supplier carries ml campbells black lacquer but it`s nitrocellouse. .02 tod
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