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    Dovetail tool

    I was turning a cherry bowl last night on the Rikon. Everything was going great.
    Then, The VORTEX caused a "SUBSPACE TRANSMUTATION EVENT".
    My bowl disappeared, and reappeared on the other side of the Magic garage. Luckly no damage. The vortex seams to be good at this teleporting thing.
    Like I said before, I had purchased a "3/8" Bedan parting tool on closeout from Woodcraft. I was going to make a square scraper out of it. But To Conquer the dreaded "Subspace transmutation", I thought it might be better to create a "dovetail cutter" to hold tighter in the chuck. So I ground about a 15 degree angle, and made the edge blunter. I now have a dovetail tool. I cut a dovetail, remounted on the chuck, gouged out, and sanded the inside of the bowl. Managed to to keep the "Transmutation events" at bay this time.
    The Sorby sanding pads worked great on my little Hf Angle grinder. I ran it at about 45 PSI. It's a great tool, and a real labor saver. This Afternoon I'm goung to mount the "Jumbo Jaws, and do the bottom.
    Of course here's pic's for the Imperial picture police
    I update if I'm successful with the bowl.
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    Jim Davenport
    Reporting from the depths of the Magic Garage

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    What kind of chuck are you using? Some, like the OneWay are not designed to use with a dovetail recess... ...some require it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Becker
    ... the OneWay are not designed to use with a dovetail recess... ...
    Perhaps not your traditional dovetail but, from the OneWay manual,

    "Back taper 2° or 3°- the jaws will hold much better in a straight sided cavity
    than they will in a cavity that has too much taper. "

    So, a little taper or shallow dovetail.
    Dave Fried

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    Hi Jim

    "Back taper 2° or 3°- the jaws will hold much better in a straight sided cavity than they will in a cavity that has too much taper. "

    Sounds like Jim Davenport it trying to get you to use a little manual dexterity.
    I usually find it much easier to be wrong once in while than to try to be perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Fried
    Perhaps not your traditional dovetail but, from the OneWay manual,

    "Back taper 2° or 3°- the jaws will hold much better in a straight sided cavity
    than they will in a cavity that has too much taper. "

    So, a little taper or shallow dovetail.
    Very little if any as the OneWay jaws are straight...
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    The most expensive tool is the one you buy "cheaply" and often...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Davenport
    ...Then, The VORTEX caused a "SUBSPACE TRANSMUTATION EVENT".
    My bowl disappeared, and reappeared on the other side of the Magic garage. Luckly no damage. The vortex seams to be good at this teleporting thing......
    Thanks Jim! This "event" has been a lot of help. I'm going to start putting dovetails on my socks before I put them in the dryer.
    ~john
    "There's nothing wrong with Quiet" ` Jeremiah Johnson

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    John...............your socks...........I'd recommend the epoxy manhatten treatment before the dovetail!
    Ken

    So much to learn, so little time.....

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    I find the odd socks make great applicators and buffing clothes!
    I don't know what I would do if my dryer stopped eating socks.
    Dave Fried

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Becker
    What kind of chuck are you using? Some, like the OneWay are not designed to use with a dovetail recess... ...some require it.

    Jim D., I agree with Jim B., but you haven't said what kind of chuck you have. The first time I used the Oneway Talon, I thought I'd go ahead and put a dovetail on the tenon (ignored the instructions ), and the chuck crushed one side of the dovetail making the bowl wobble. The tenon was then weaker due to the crushed part and the bowl was actually more likely to go sailing. I don't do that any more and I have no problems keeping it in the chuck.

    Ernie

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