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Thread: Chop Saw Jig for Angled Rip Cuts, pics

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    Chop Saw Jig for Angled Rip Cuts, pics

    Hi,


    I thought I would post a series of pictures of a jig I built today to use on my chop saw to support angled rip cuts.


    I have been working on a set of Morris chairs and I have been tossing several ideas back and forth as to how to make a bent arm. I looked at several methods, narrowed them down to three methods.

    The first method I looked at involved cross cutting the arm stock at 3 degrees and using biscuits to attach the long grain to long grain. My test arm worked, the joint was surprising strong, supporting my 240 lb weight. I was not crazy thought about the glue line.

    Reflecting back on some Stickely methods I chose to resaw a wedge off the bottom of the arm and glue the wedge back under the arm, perfect grain match and an invisible glue line were some of the benefits, and of course the continuous grain on the top of the arm.

    This design became my focus, but how do I cut this? I thought my way through a sliding jig on the table saw, but it would require an inversion of the part after the initial cut, the arms are 5” wide. It did not sound simple enough.

    I then thought about the band saw, lay out a line and cut…..okay, perhaps….but what else, I wanted perfect angle control of the cut…..maybe the chop saw?

    Okay, so I thought, how do I support the type of cut I was after on a chop saw, and came up with this jig. I have a 12” Delta with a WWI Forrest blade


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    For what it is worth, it took me 30 minutes to make, a squared piece of ¾” plywood and some scraps of oak.
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    I used a simple arch in the jig fence to support the blade guard as the saw is descended; it rides out on the curve and controls the guard.
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    I liked the design it worked well on thin stock, but as I found out with a test piece, only worked up to 4 ½” wide stock, the guard on the fence stopped the blade descending completely through the cut. I could either remove the blade guard or cut the groove deeper into the fence. I tried a few cuts with the guard removed, but I put it back on, I need to work some details out and maintain the guard.

    While making sample cuts, I supported the work with a hand clamp against the outboard edge of the fence, and used another clamp to support the face of the jig against the chop saw fence as well as the hold down.


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    I liked the idea of the jig, but in the end passed on it for my wider stock. I set up this piece to show how I intended it to work.

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    I cut the arms tonight on the band saw and glued the re-sawn wedges under the arms to create the bent look.
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    In the end, I have carefully worked my bent arm design and techniques through a series of processes. I built a jig for one of those processes that despite not being used in the end, will support other work in the future.


    Thanks for viewing,

    Take care,
    Jim

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    Thumbs up Good Idea!

    Jim,

    Good idea, I'm sure that it will work for something someday. I will file this one away for future reference. To me, puzzling through these kinds of things is half the fun of woodworking. I'm looking forward to seeing pics of the finished chairs before you close up shop for the winter.

    Bob

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    Lightbulb Saftey Concern, IMPORTANT

    Hi,

    I might just point out as well that the stock needs to be supported under the blade by the saw fence, so that the blade does not grab the work and pull it into the blade. In my set up, I made sure the stock was supported top the right of the blade so this did not happen.

    Thanks to Jim from Burlington for pointing this potential failure mode out on the Canadian Woodworking forum.

    Take care,
    Jim

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    Jim,

    I most always have a zero clearance fence on my chop saw that prevents the blade from launching cutoffs or trying to take work away from me. The zero clearance fence also cuts down on tear out.

    Bob

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    Bob, I have a Dewalt 705 with an extension table that precludes use of the sliding fence. The stop rail hangs over the old fence groove. The present stop that I am using will allow only a 1/4" 0 clearance back fence without rebuilding it. Do you think that would be rigid enough to work? How did you attach your fence?

    Jim, I like the idea too. I'm going to file it until I need it also.

    David

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Lasley
    Jim,

    I most always have a zero clearance fence on my chop saw that prevents the blade from launching cutoffs or trying to take work away from me. The zero clearance fence also cuts down on tear out.

    Bob
    Last edited by David Rose; 09-15-2003 at 12:12 AM.

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    Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by David Rose
    Bob, I have a Dewalt 705 with an extension table that precludes use of the sliding fence. The stop rail hangs over the old fence groove. The present stop that I am using will allow only a 1/4" 0 clearance back fence without rebuilding it. Do you think that would be rigid enough to work? How did you attach your fence?

    Jim, I like the idea too. I'm going to file it until I need it also.

    David

    David,

    On my 12" PC, there were four predrilled holes for sub-fence attachment so I just bolted a piece of 1/2" baltic with 1/4" flat head bolts countersunk into the plywood. I then cut the fence with the saw for zero clearance. I have used two sided tape for this on my little chop saw in the past. Of course, everytime you cut an angle, you have to make a new subfence.

    I think a 1/4" fence would probably work depending on how much support is provided by the factory fence.

    Bob

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    Good morning from Central Florida!!!!

    First, I am glad the huricane is not going to hit here!!! I just feel sorry for the ones it is going to hit.

    Second, In the starting post, How do I get the pictures to show up!!!! All I have on my screen is a little square with an red "X" in it.

    I am just like Terry Hatfield---"I MAY BE SOME DUMB, BUT I AIN'T PLUM DUMB" on this compooter stuff.

    KEN
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    Ken,
    Jim didn't load the pictures up to SMC so the server he is using seems to go up and down. It ain't you and it ain't SMC.

    As Keith has said many times...Another reason to download to SMC.
    Glenn Clabo
    Michigan

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