Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 19

Thread: Using old DH windows on a SIP workshop?

  1. #1

    Using old DH windows on a SIP workshop?

    I got 8 old double hung windows in great condition and I would llike to install them in my new workshop. It is made from Structural Insulated Panels ( OSB & Foam ), you can cut windows and doors out as you need them. I got some new aluminium windows that have an installation fin that can double as a moisture diversion. but the older frames fit the wall exactly ( 4 1/2 inches thick ), with no "fin" to give me a reveal. If I place the old frames flush with the outside, how do you "flash" them to keep water out. I will place stucco or hardi plank on the outside after the windows are in. Thanks in advance, Neville

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    10,304
    Welcome to the Creek!


    How old are these "old" windows? Specifically, do they have a nailing flange?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    London, Ont., Canada
    Posts
    2,200
    Welcome to SMC, Neville. Great place to be.

    Please be sure and post many, many pictures of your shop being built. We love photos here. Furthermore, I, personally, am very interested in the SIP building method.

    But to your question, I'm puzzled... if you install these windows flush with the outside of the SIP, then they'll be recessed once you put up your exterior cladding!!

    Maybe someone who knows more about window installation will chime in.

    ...art

  4. #4
    This might help you in looking at the flashing process for old style windows. I'd alson install a pan under the window to make sure that you don't have any water infiltration issues.
    http://www.fortifiber.com/fbsg/pdf/install_guides/moistop_BrickMold_Flashing.PDF#search='window%20fl ashing%20detail'

    I'll hazard a guess that you're talking about installing the old window flush with the exterior and will then apply trim around it? This would be my method as well.

    Bob Wilkerson - building homes in Virginia....

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Winterville, NC (eastern NC)
    Posts
    2,360
    Cut a long slot approx. 1-2 inches above the upper part of the opening. After the windows are installed, insert aluminum flashing into the slot with adhesive caulk, bending the lower part of the flashing over the top of the window. That way any water will run over the outside of the window and not into the gap between the window and the opening. Siding can be placed over this flashing to hide it and give a much nicer appearance.
    Good luck and congrats on the new shop.

  6. #6

    SIP workshop

    To answer the questions ; The windows are probably 40 years old but in excellent shape and will fit the "look" we are going for. I think the idea of flashing placed in the slot and a " pan " are the one I'll use. I will post pictures to show progress and thanks for all the replies. The workshop is 40' x 40' on the ground and likely 30'x 20' on the second floor/loft. I will probably locate an AC'd hand tool room on that floor with lumber storage. Its about 24' tall at the peak. Here are some pics of the start. They show red iron frame & SIP's awaiting placement.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  7. #7

    SIP house & Workshop

    To Art & anyone else interested in SIP's you might like to look at this pictorial of the house and why we want the workshop to look like it hopefully will.
    http://www.themaroneycompany.com/beecaves.html

    Glad to answer any questions on SIP, this was the first house around here built with them(I think), and it was an education, let me tell you!

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    London, Ont., Canada
    Posts
    2,200
    Quote Originally Posted by Neville Stewart
    you might like to look at this pictorial of the house and why we want the workshop to look like it hopefully will.
    http://www.themaroneycompany.com/beecaves.html
    Hey Neville, that is cool. It wasn't exactly what I had in mind - I'm interested in seeing places where the SIPs are the entire wall, and not just the insulation wrapped around beams. The S stands for Structural, after all.

    I've been checking out videos at http://www.thermapan.com/ But they don't show an entire house, and they don't show things like fishing electrical and so on.

    But I'll stop, I'm getting OT for this thread.

  9. #9

    Sip

    Art, I will show some more pics. The red iron is a backup to the structural part of the sip. In a house you have internal walls to add support to the roof, but as you can imagine the workshop is pretty wide open inside. We built the iron structure and then took a good portion of it out ( all the girts in fact ). The roof purlins support the roof panels though. its a 40x40 with only 6 beams in it.

  10. #10
    Neville,

    Welcome to Sawmill Creek. I can't answer your question, but just had to complement you an excellent adaptation of post and beam construction to the Texas Hill Country environment. I really enjoyed the photo show. Back to your question, there is plenty of expertise here, and someone will come through for you.

    Jerry

  11. #11
    Thank you Jerry. I see you're in Katy. The house has taken quite a while to come to fruition, almost 2 years from design to completion. The barn came from Latrobe, Pa. circa 1840. As for the talent here, I consider myself most fortunate to have the benefit of all your advice. Thank you!

  12. #12

    some more pics

    Heres a few pics of the shop build., it seems I can only load one at a time, I'll work on that.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    • File Type: jpg 1.JPG (16.1 KB, 41 views)

  13. #13

    cut outs in SIP's

    Here are a few cutouts for the office area windows & doors. You can see the cut out slabs on the floor to left.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    • File Type: jpg 4.JPG (14.5 KB, 30 views)

  14. #14

    another pic

    Sorry if this is against the rules. I would do it differently if I knew how :-(
    This is the inside, thats a 10 ft. door and a DeWalt slider to give you proportion.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    • File Type: jpg 5.JPG (16.0 KB, 42 views)

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    SE PA - Central Bucks County
    Posts
    65,685
    Outstanding shop!

    There is a tutorial on pictures stickied at the top of the Support Forum that you may find helpful. You can attach up to 5 pictures per post.
    --

    The most expensive tool is the one you buy "cheaply" and often...

Similar Threads

  1. Bill Grumbine workshop
    By Mike Cunningham in forum Turner's Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-25-2006, 8:01 PM
  2. OT: Windows
    By martyphee in forum General Woodworking and Power Tools
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 12-09-2005, 10:34 AM
  3. Replacing Windows part II: Andersen vs Andersen
    By Dan Mages in forum Off Topic Forum
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 10-03-2005, 8:07 PM
  4. replacement windows and insulation for attic question
    By Bob Weisner in forum General Woodworking and Power Tools
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 03-15-2004, 12:46 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •