I agree with that on a functional basis, but aren't there still matches that only allow "GI-style" uppers with the integral carry handle?Originally Posted by Bob Smalser
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I agree with that on a functional basis, but aren't there still matches that only allow "GI-style" uppers with the integral carry handle?
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"Design"? Possibly. "Intelligent"? Sure doesn't look like it from this angle.
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You are correct. The DCM Service Rifle Rules these days apparently preclude detachable handles. I don't know why, because they allow heavy barrels....a real advantage over a rack rifle....where a sloppy-fitting carrying handle with rear sight would be just the opposite. My "DCM-legal" AR 15 weighed 13 pounds.
http://www.odcmp.com/Services/competitions/rules.htm
But why bother with these rifles at all, unless you are a policeman or plan on competing in Service Rifle? Too small to hunt much with. Not as good as a shotgun for home defense. Ugly cast aluminum and plastic. Carries the "assault rifle" stigma. And as a Service Rifle, you can handload all the 5.56 you want, but you'll come up a loser against my 7.62 at 600 yards and out. Army and Marine standings have declined some since they switched to M16's for competition after I retired.
Or a scope, for that matter? Maybe for prairie dogs. Or a short-range police sniper with backup. In serious shooting, even the best of them are so much slower than irons, they can be a real hindrance in engagements under 200 yards.
Last edited by Bob Smalser; 02-28-2007 at 3:45 PM.
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But why bother with these rifles at all
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Prarire dogs, also pest control and small game hunting
cheap plunking
light recoil
cheap reloading
3 gun matches
Reworked can be quite accurate considering bullet weight
Probably a few more, but the biggie is, just because ya want one...
Al
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So long as your eyes are wide open. These are specialty rifles.""""""""""""
Probably a few more, but the biggie is, just because ya want one...
Al
In the annual All-Army Small Arms Championships in my day, the "3-gun Match" was your combined score on the M9/M1911 pistol, M16 rifle, and M60 machine gun.
If you like the AR15, you'da loved the real thing.
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Actually I prefer a bolt gun, but the guys I know that owe them seem to enjoy the AR's, a few use then for Praire dog shooting and do quite well with them, they are much modified though.
Even more than a bolt gun, I enjoy handguns, was shooting Bullseye about the time you were shooting Bob, got bore punching holes in paper and got into IPSC, steel shoots and bowling pin matches...
The three gun I was refering to was the IPSC style of action shooting.
Different strokes for different folks.
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they can be a real hindrance in engagements under 200 yards.
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Boy could we start an disscusion on that one...
Al
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I have a brother who was on Tampa, Florida's SWAT team. (He's now the trainer) He carried an M-16 variant in the trunk of his squad car. He told me that there is several things to do to accurize the rifles. I don't know where you might find the information, but you might google for police/law enforcement sites to get the goods. All I know is that they work well on woodchucks.
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