Originally Posted by
Robert Trotter
Thanks James for your time and effort in addressing my questions......
Robert
<<As to Question 1, "Why move it?" ...
My work space will be just a bit over 9' wide. So if I had a twin screw at say 24" centres (Why 24"? - I am thinking that it will allow me to hold drawers and assembled components etc in the vice between the screws.) And then my bench length, and some space to start and follow through on a planing stroke then there wouldn't be a lot of available length between the end of the bench and the vice screw for putting a panel or something in.
I am not thinking of doing very large projects at the moment but if I did and needed to say finish the edge of a large cabinet door or panel then I would need to remove the twin screw and just clamp with holdfast or hold downs to the bench. (vertically against the front of the bench and legs) Removing the vice would mean I could use the full width of my bench to support a panel of some sort.>>
As Wiley noted, removing and then re-installing a vice is a real pain, plus it offers many opportunities for misalignment, bending, etc. You may want to think this through again.
For a 9' wide work space, I would think that a 2 metre bench would be fine; slightly tight at the ends perhaps, but still very usable even with a tail/end vice of some sort. A 6' bench saves you only about 6½ to 7 inches over a 2 meter bench, and IME (building bookcases and similar sized pieces), anything shorter than 6' starts to get pretty cramped for bench-top real estate. Even though my bench is in the center of my shop and all four sides are accessible, I find that I use the front side the most, with the tail vice end getting the next most amount of use.
Before sinking a lot of money and time into building a bench of X length/Y width and then possibly finding that it is too short/long or narrow/wide, may I suggest that you do a mock up of your proposed size(s) with cardboard and Styrofoam or something similar (and cheap). That way, you can tweak the sizes (length, width, and height) to give you the best fit in your work space, before you spend a fair amount of cash, time, effort, etc., to build something (semi-) permanent that might not fit the way you want it to.<<I know I could get some technical details from Veritas but I was hoping that there were people out there with a twin screw who have used it and know about its limits and installation etc. Real life reports are the most informative I think.>>
Over on the Knots forum (http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki...unityHome.aspx?), there's a member whose screen name is "Lataxe." He recently build a very nice bench in a fairly restricted space (dimensions similar to yours) and installed a couple of Veritas twin screw vices on his bench. He's a very nice guy and very helpful; I'm sure he could provide you with lots of practical info and answer your questions on them.<<The 4" square stretchers came from my thinking that I would just buy the posts which are just under 3m in length. This would mean two bench top pieces and a leg from each. So just buy one more post and it should work out to be just about right for material. But I could just get a 2x6 or 2x4. Would "2 by" something be adequate>>
Using 2 X ?? lumber would certainly be adequate, but if you're looking for STOUT, your original idea to use 4 X 4 would certainly work. Since it sounds like you will be doing a fair amount of hand work, and especially planing, I'd suggest going with the heavy-duty version (budget allowing, of course). Your original plan also has the virtue of adding weight to your bench. IME, a bench weighing less than 250 lbs to 300 lbs will move when you are hand planing (unless it is otherwise restrained). In the majority of cases, heavier is most certainly better. (Of course, if you add cabinets and tools underneath, this will also add to the weight.)<<I was thinking of M&T joints ( no glue) for the legs and stretchers and using bolts which would allow for disassembly and re-sizing the bench until I find the best fit for my space.>>
M&T with bolts will work fine, and, as you're probably aware, a pretty common fastening method for stretchers.<<For cabinets under, should I make the bench and cabinets separately and just slide them in the space and fix then to the bench frame? OR Just add some ledgers (proper name ?) around the frame and just screw ply sides, and back and bottom onto these then hang some doors off the legs? >>
You could go either way. If it were my bench, I probably go with two or three separate cabinets and slide them onto the stretchers. The weight of the cabinets, themselves, along with the weight of the tools, etc., placed inside them will keep them in place.
Hope this gives you some useful ideas.