Well finally got to do a little turning this weekend after being on the road the last two weeks and on vacation the two weeks prior. The neighbor gave me a cedar log which has been lying around for 3 yrs. I cut in down and decided to try a end grain vase. It sure did turn out purdy. It is 3 1/4" across and 7 1/2" tall. Finished with Minwax Tung Oil and 4 coats of poly. I made a decorative pedestal. The LOML snatched it up almost before it was dry.