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    My Phi experiment

    A few of us have touched on phi (the golden ratio) a few times here and there. In doing research I found a web page that showed how to make a phi gauge...so I did.
    I took a blank that I would get about a 4" diameter out of and went from there. Now some (all) of my choices were arbitrarily chosen as to what portion of phi I used. I used a phi calculator to come up with the following dimensions. http://www.calculator.com/calcs/calc_golden.html
    Anyway, using 4" diameter I calculated that I should have a height of 6.472". Using that I deducted that the largest diameter should be 2.472" from the top or bottom, I chose top. Then using the diameter I found that the top or bottom should be 2.472, I chose top, and the other end should be 1.527, which is where I intended the bottom to be. A "design opportunity" left me having a bottom around 1 1/4".
    Somewhere along the way I buggered up the form, and I left the bottom a little too heavy, I was worried about it falling over but I over compensated for it.
    Anyway, heres what I ended up with. The blank has a crack in it so its staying home anyway, so I'm not all that broken up about it.
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    Kevin
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    And here is the gauge.
    Here is where I found it. http://goldennumber.net/goldgrid.htm

    Edit: Sorry wrong link
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    where can I buy the gouge of the photo?

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    I made that one, but they have one for sale also
    http://goldennumber.net/gauges.htm
    Kevin
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    Interesting experiment.

    I have to say while it has a pleasant curve and nice workmanship the proportions look off to me. The widest part of the piece seems like it should be higher to me and the rim looks a touch to wide.

    Just my 2 cents, but hey this is why play. I am curious what others think because the idea sounds like it has real merit.
    Mike Vickery

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    Yeah, I'm chalking this up to a learning experience. Way too many calculation went into this for turning though. On a side note the gauge works pretty well. When I put it on paper first the form looked better, but I had no plans for the opening at that point. So it was kind of second thought, it is undercut about 1/4".
    Kevin
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    your form is excellant, if your gauge helped good

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    I made one from 1/4" plywood, using binding posts for the hinges - 3/16" barrel IIRC. Cost a whole lot less than $100. And no shipping charges.

    2.236 is sqrt(5);
    3.23607 is that plus 1;
    1.61803 is half that;
    0.61803 is inverse thereof;
    0.38197 is square of that.

    b = a * 0.618;
    c = a * 0.38197.

    Joe
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    Here is the one I used, mine is made of aluminum (but I had a waterjet to make it on)-
    http://goldennumber.net/images/goldensectiongauge.gif
    Kevin
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