I stumbled upon a website doing some surfing today that I found very interesting. This website has some stock files or will convert your files to a 3D ready engraving file. They have a freebie test file that they will send you if you email them. I did this and the file worked awesome. This is the first time I have been able to get any good results using my 3D mode on my Pinnacle m40. Any of you Photopaint fanatics know an easy method to convert typical files into this type of a 3D ready file? Looks like this website does a good job but take a look at the Prices Wow. Anyway I dont think it is within forum rules for me to put a link on this posting. Do a google search for gantryco and let me know what you think.