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    WW show report with pics *LONG!*

    Hi folks,

    yesterday I visited the „Holz und Handwerk“ woodworking show in Nürnberg, Germany. It’s one of the biggest and most important shows I can think of and I certainly enjoyed it. Compared to last year there were less exhibitors but it was still a good show. Of course, I missed “something” – Bob Marino who I met there last year.
    Although I called this post “show report” it isn’t really a report, it’s a collection of pics. The show covered a wide range of tools and machinery which didn’t get my interest (for example, CNC machinery) because I’m not familiar with this kind of stuff.

    I hope you enjoy the pics as I did the show.


    A shot of the Festool booth:

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    The new Festool OF 1400 router:

    Improved dust collection, extremely simply router bit change due to an integrated ratchet, toolless copy ring change, etc.

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    The new TDK cordless drill with a very short chuck (you need special bits). Available in 12 and 15,6 V:

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    The new Festool Precisio pull push (trimming) jobsite table saw:

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    New Festool WTS 150 ROS with 7 mm stroke (for aggressive sanding):

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    RUWI – an innovative stationary routing system. This is neither a shaper nor a simple router table, it’s a table which holds up to 11 special router motor (exclusively designed for table use). You can change from one to another router within seconds.

    The small unit:

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    Working at the large one:

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    To be continued. The software doesn't allow to include all pics in a single message.

    Christian
    "On Wednesday, when the sky is blue,
    And I have nothing else to do,
    I sometimes wonder if it's true
    That who is what and what is who."


    (A.A. Milne, Winnie the Pooh)

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    Part #2:

    The Mafell Duo Dowel tool (looks like a biscuit joiner but uses standard dowels, the tool drills two holes at the same time):

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    Flexible guide rail for Mafell circular saw (a 1400 mm rail can be stored in a Systainer along with the saw):

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    An Altendorf F 45:

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    Martin’s pendant:

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    To be continued.

    Christian
    "On Wednesday, when the sky is blue,
    And I have nothing else to do,
    I sometimes wonder if it's true
    That who is what and what is who."


    (A.A. Milne, Winnie the Pooh)

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    Part #3:

    The SCM booth:

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    A Panhans shaper:

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    Isn’t this a nice Kundig sander?

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    KBM sander:

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    A wood turner at the Magma booth:

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    That’s me looking at the Festool router:

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    And finally my dad with the Festool drill:

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    I have even more pics to share but the download time was already as long as a good cup of coffee.

    Thanks for looking!

    Christian Aufreiter, Austria
    "On Wednesday, when the sky is blue,
    And I have nothing else to do,
    I sometimes wonder if it's true
    That who is what and what is who."


    (A.A. Milne, Winnie the Pooh)

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    Christian, thanks for the "report". Some of those machines we don't see over here all that often.

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    Christian,

    Man, you guys across the Pond, sure don't mess around, do 'ya?! The WW show I attended locally had a LOT of displays, but there were only a few bringing out the heavy artillery. The table saws and jointers you show make most of our look pretty diminutive.

    I see Festool is continuing its tradition of highly innovative tools, but I spotted a few brands I've never heard of before. Can I assume some of them are strictly for the Euro market? Anyhow, looks like it was a great show! The BIG question is, did it relieve you of any pocket cash and, if so, let's see the prizes!
    Cheers,
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    Christian, I found your report very interesting and it makes me want to attend a European show. Maybe I can arrange something in a year or two. For now, I will have to do the second best thing which is drooling over your pictures and asking you some questions?

    Is the show in Nürnberg, Germany reputed to be the best? Is it always held at this time of the year?

    I was very interested in the flexible guide rail for the Mafell circular saw. Do you think that this guide rail would work with the Festool equipment? Have you heard anything about how well it works compared to the fixed Festool rails?

    I notice that Mafell also has systainers and their systainer appears to be interchangeable with the ones I have from Festool. Are most European hand power tools available with systainer? Are they all interchangeable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Pellow
    Christian, I found your report very interesting and it makes me want to attend a European show. Maybe I can arrange something in a year or two. For now, I will have to do the second best thing which is drooling over your pictures and asking you some questions?

    Is the show in Nürnberg, Germany reputed to be the best? Is it always held at this time of the year?

    I was very interested in the flexible guide rail for the Mafell circular saw. Do you think that this guide rail would work with the Festool equipment? Have you heard anything about how well it works compared to the fixed Festool rails?

    I notice that Mafell also has systainers and their systainer appears to be interchangeable with the ones I have from Festool. Are most European hand power tools available with systainer? Are they all interchangeable?
    Frank,

    I'm not sure if the ww show in Nürnberg is the largest or the best one but it's certainly a great event. It's usually held in March/April but due to the current economic problems in the craft/woodworking branch there won't be a show next year. I guess it's an important show because many companies present their new tools there. The "Ligna" show http://www.ligna.de/ in Hannover is also quite important as far as I know.

    The flexible rail doesn't work with the Festool saw. It wouldn't even work with the larger Mafell plunge/circular saws I think. I thought about getting this saw last year but it had only 42 mm (1.65 inch) cutting depth so I opted for the Festool. Besides, I you can't use the Mafell router along with the flexible rail, it would only work with the fixed rail of the larger Mafell saws. Generally, I think that Mafell's quality is comparable to Festool or Fein.
    You can check out an English description of the Mafell KSP 40 Flexistem on http://www.mafell.com/

    All Systainer's are made by Tanos, a company which belongs to Festool (or more precisely to Tooltechnicsystems http://www.tooltechnicsystems.com/). More and more companies offer Systainers in Europe, for example, Festool, Protool, Mafell, Metabo, Makita, Lamello. Of course, these Systainer's are interchangeable.

    Quote Originally Posted by John Miliunas
    I see Festool is continuing its tradition of highly innovative tools, but I spotted a few brands I've never heard of before. Can I assume some of them are strictly for the Euro market? Anyhow, looks like it was a great show! The BIG question is, did it relieve you of any pocket cash and, if so, let's see the prizes!
    John,
    I didn't buy anything at the show but I would love the new Festool saw and the Mafell dowel tool for sure. The Mafell would have costed almost EUR 1000 (including the tool, some dowels, drill bits, a Systainer, and a template/rail).

    Regards,

    Christian
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    And I have nothing else to do,
    I sometimes wonder if it's true
    That who is what and what is who."


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    Excellent report, Christian! I was practically making that "Tim the Toolman" grunt while purusing the pics!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Becker
    Excellent report, Christian! I was practically making that "Tim the Toolman" grunt while purusing the pics!
    hehe

    Ditto

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    Christian, Great pics.....why don't we see machines like those at US WW'g shows? I guess it would cost too much to ship, huh? The Festool Precisio looks interesting...how accurate is it? I found a base price of 1200 Euros...kinda spendy.

    Thanks for the report.
    Greg

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    One thing I do note, Christian is, that between all the pics and even in reading other reports and such, I never hear mention of a Euro drill press. I have no doubt there must be numerous flavors of such, but I've never seen press on them. Care to enlighten the masses, especially if there are any available with US specs. Thanks!
    Cheers,
    John K. Miliunas

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    John,

    Good observation and question. I was at that show last year and don't remember seeing one either. Unless someone familiar with the European market chimes in, we'll have to wait until the weekend to get a response from Christian, as his military/goverment service makes him incomunicato until them.

    Bob
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    Christian, thanks for the great post. The tools were incredible and the tour was very informative. Thanks again.

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    Christain
    Thank you very much for posting the photos. I viewed them with great interest comparing the companies that you have available as opposed to the ones that we have here on the other side of the pond.
    Go ahead and post some more if you find the time.
    Daniel
    "Howdy" from Southwestern PA

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    Hi folks,

    thanks for your comments.

    I don't really know how accurate the CS 50 saw is but I guess that it performs quite well in its class. The "pull push" feature is certainly handy. Pull push saws can be used for the same job's as miter saws and table saws. I guess this is the reason why the get more and more popular for on-site use.
    Is this saw pricey? Hey, it's a FESTOOL and a comparable Mafell saw costs about the same.

    As for the drill presses, I don't know which kind of machinery is used by professionals. I think that there are many specialized drills, for example dowel machines, drill presses for Euro hinges, etc.
    Personally, I use a so-called "Bohrständer", for example http://www.wolfcraft.de/de/produkte/...html?prdSN=851. I might take some pics of it later. Alzmetall http://www.alzmetall.de/ and Flott http://www.flott.de/englisch/index.shtml make excellent drill presses which are especially designed for drilling metal.

    Regards,

    Christian
    "On Wednesday, when the sky is blue,
    And I have nothing else to do,
    I sometimes wonder if it's true
    That who is what and what is who."


    (A.A. Milne, Winnie the Pooh)

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