I tell you what, meet me at Lime Rock or Laguna Seca with a CTS-V and you can see what the rear of a BMW looks like, lap after lap. The V series is a sledge hammer the M series is a scapel. Very similar analogy to the Vettes and the 911s. Cadillac is getting more and more of the equation right but they are shooting at a moving target.
Ken I think everyone knows it is an old thread, Brian was pointing out the music didn't die in the motor cities. But, I think your point was keep it civil and no politics, which is indeed proper, but celebrating the biggest manufacturing base in the US should be something we are all happy about.