i have had my new/used Excalibur EX-21 scroll saw for about a month now and im finally starting to get the hang of it. it needed a few things at first and still does but im happy with the way its running and i have made a few nice items. this saw really lives up to its reputation! very very solid saw, the tilting head is a great feature. i need to find a good magnifier/light to use with the saw along with a small vac for dust collection. i just wish it was still painted ...